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Agafaster 
Kodak DC3400 camera
Posted on 1-Jan-2006 13:52:14
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My Brother in law is selling his, and I'm about to buy, but thought I'd best check
the community !

anyone had any luck connecting to this via OS4 ? I do have the final pre-release installed,
and it is a USB camera.

I seem to remember someone somewhere talking about using the DC10 (IIRC !) camera with OS4,
but cant remember where ! sicky ? Rhino ? has this been mentioned in Total Amiga (great mag! plug plug )

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@Agafaster

I don't know specifically about the DC3400 but after recently testing a new Kodak C310, it was found out that it wasn't USB massstorage compliant but vendor specific. Therefore incompatible with the Amiga. This may be true for other Kodak cameras.

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
Posted on 1-Jan-2006 14:24:00
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@Agafaster

If it uses removable media that can be read with a card reader (CompactFlash, Memory Stick, etc.) then it is Amiga-compatible. It's much better for the batteries, too, if you use a card reader instead of connect the camera directly to the computer.

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
Posted on 1-Jan-2006 15:07:10
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@dauber

ha! well I've got a 7-in-1 reader on the internal USB hub.
might be doable from the linux side too..*

cheers !

-edit-
*It seems that in debian, libgphoto2-2 can handle a selection of Kodak
cameras:

usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.5/libgphoto2_kodak_dc120.so libs/libgphoto2-2
usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.5/libgphoto2_kodak_dc210.so libs/libgphoto2-2
usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.5/libgphoto2_kodak_dc240.so libs/libgphoto2-2
usr/lib/gphoto2/2.1.5/libgphoto2_kodak_dc3200.so libs/libgphoto2-2

doesnt mention dc3400 though... any linux/kodak experts in'th'ouse ?

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@Agafaster

I've checked the
manual and the camera takes compact flash cards so it can be used on an A1.

The problem with the camera is it's age, it's only a 2.1 megapixel (896x592) 100 ASA camera, which is crap compared to the modern cameras, even the sub £50 ones are better than that. if your brother in law wants more than £20 for it tell him to bu**er off. it's just not worth much now and because of it's age it'll be high power, batteries won't last long...

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@Severin

Cheers ears !
He was only gonna ask 20 quid anyway, which seems reasonable to me for what it is.
I know its only 2 MPixel, but compared to me phone (MC60 Siemens, 352*288 4096 colours),
thats absolute acres, sorry must do metric; hectares !

hmm. might not bother then, if it wont take NiCads.

incidentally, he thought he'd get 40 on ebay. reasonable ?

(then again, I heard of someone who sold a pound coin there for more than 2 quid ! )

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@Agafaster

If it's a massstorage device then it will work directly with OS4, otherwise just use (as stated by others) a multicard reader

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@sicky

cheers mate. I'm just mooting it at the mo.
Linux is looking promising in the direct connection stakes, but if its a massstorage stick,
then so be it.

of course, it comes with a CD so I can always try it on me work laptop !

gordon bennet, Severin, how big's that PDF ?!

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@Agafaster

I have one of thoose cameras too. (No OS4 here though). But iirc it has some special way of fetching the images from the camera (not MSD). I havn't tried to connect the camera to my PC directly. I'm using a memorycard reader instead (probably faster anyway).

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@fryguy

nice camera ? eh, who cares, its only 20 quid, and beats me APS film camera !!
still, Severin's PDF indicates its been tested with Rechargeables so that should
be ok for me.

thanks chaps, you remind me of whats great about the Amiga posse !!

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@fryguy

Quote:

But iirc it has some special way of fetching the images from the camera (not MSD).


Probably PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol).

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@Agafaster

Yup its pretty good (for being a 2MP camera). I got it from my brother, when he bought a new one. Its a bit big perhaps.

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Luca67 
Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
Posted on 1-Jan-2006 18:11:37
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@sicky

> If it's a massstorage device then it will work directly with OS4, otherwise just use (as stated by others) a multicard reader

Have a Sony DSC-F828 here, and it doesn't work with OS4 yet, even if it is recognised as masstorage.

Ahem... can I take advantage of this "photo" thread to ask a thing? Yes? Thanks! :)
I bought a remote/time lapse "device" two weeks ago, is there a program working with OS4 to make movies out of a series of jpeg pictures?

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@Chris_Y

Quote:
Probably PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol)

Yes, which at present is not supported by OS 4, but who knows, sometime soon maybe?

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@Luca67

Quote:
Have a Sony DSC-F828 here, and it doesn't work with OS4 yet, even if it is recognised as masstorage

The USB drivers within OS4 have been updated and improved over a period of time, wait til update 4 is released and see if it works then!

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is there a program working with OS4 to make movies out of a series of jpeg pictures?

Not heard of one, but ask around maybe someone knows of one?

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@sicky

There are programs on Aminet that make AnimGIFs out of individual frames, there are probably ones that can create IFF ANIMs as well.

The problem with JPEGs is they are 24-bit, and neither GIF nor ANIM5 support this.

I doubt there is anything for the Amiga that can do the same with MPEG, there is a remote possibility of CDXL, but that's HAM8 so the colours might suffer.

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@Chris_Y

Asked in irc channels, seem that MEncoder can do the job :)
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-enc-images.html
The only thing is that I don't like too much no-GUI progs :)


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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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Doesn't work, what I'm doing wrong? I copied the string under "Creating an MPEG-4 file from all the JPEG files in the current directory:"
from this link http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-enc-images.html

Result:

MEncoder - 1.0pre8.007 (19-10-2005) NewLib - PThreads (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
AltiVec not found
CPU: PowerPC
Option stream url: This URL doesn't have a hostname part.
[file] No filename
success: format: 16 data: 0x0 - 0x0
[demux_mf] file type was not set! trying 'type=JPG'...
[mf] mf support is disabled on your os
============ Sorry, this file format is not recognized/supported =============
=== If this file is an AVI, ASF or MPEG stream, please contact the author! ===
Cannot open demuxer.

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Re: Kodak DC3400 camera
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@fryguy

i got it !

yeah it is a smidge chunky, but not to worry ! it seems quite robust too.

NOW...
it seems that my USB card reader, that stopped working right after doing update3
is not working (it seems, according to the Hyperion IRC) due to an alledged CrossDOSFileSystem.

anyone got any ideas how to get the device mounted ? is it enough to go from
version 51.21 (presumed buggy) back to 51.18 (from update 2) and reboot, or are there other things
to do like mountfiles ? examples are always welcome pretty please !!)

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@Agafaster

First, open up USB Inspector and check it sees the card reader. If it does, you'll have an entry something like this:

Mass Storage Device
Class: Mass Storage
Subclass: 6
Driver: MassStorage Device Task

That means the USB side of things is OK. If you pres Ctrl-Alt-M it will show you all of your Mass Storage devices. With a card inserted, you should see a line which reads something like:
Name: USB xx Reader
DOS Name: USB0
Filesystem: FAT
Media Size: xxx MB

If you see that, it should be appearing on WB.

If not, report here what you do see.

The files you need to worry about btw, are:
L:CrossDosFileSystem
DEVS:USB/FD/massstorage.usbfd

There are no mountlists - the Mass Storage driver handles that.

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