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[Solved] - Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 16:31:36
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I'm trying to run OS4 Update 4 Install CD that has been burnt. I even got
2 CDs of it in case something happens to one of them...

My problem occurs when the Update 4 Install CD has booted. I followed the
PDF-manual that i got copy of from my IT-friend helping me out.

I chose to boot from my Samsung DVD-ROM drive on my Sillicon Image 0680
Parallell ATA133 Controller by pressing Return under boot, then picking
that choice, pressing Escape and picking "Boot This Configuration", so i
did, and then i meet the trashed 4-colour Workbench-screen being freezed..

I can mention that i have a Radeon 9200-card. I suspect this being the problem.

Is there a way around this problem, except getting myself an ATI Radeon 9000
instead?

Last edited by _Steve_ on 14-Feb-2006 at 04:49 PM.

 
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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 16:37:48
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@Helgis

Your booting from the wrong kickstart, check HD lead when booting


1. press ESC
2. select Amiga Boot Device
3. select CDROM as first boot device
4. save and exit
5. retry from start

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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 16:39:46
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Ok, i can try that...

I have to mention that in Tooltype of Radeon, mine is like this..

(Interrupt=YES)
Softsprite=YES

 
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salass00 
Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 16:46:59
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@Helgis

I used same procedure as with update #1 CD for theupdate #4 CD (worked for me):

1. interrupt boot sequence and go to U-boot commandline.

2. Type following two commands:
setenv boot1 cdrom
boota

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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 16:54:56
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@salass00

Yes, of course. I should do that..

I guess it might struggle to correct itself a few times before
getting it right, but this is the way to do, right?

Alright, thanks

 
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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 16:59:35
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Hi @Helgis

->"...I chose to boot from my Samsung DVD-ROM drive on my Sillicon Image 0680

] ide reset 1
setenv boot1 cdrom
boota

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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 17:03:26
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@Snuffy

Ok, one step closer i guess...

I have also set the Radeon-settings to this:

Interrupt=No
Softsprite=Yes

Not sure about the last one, though...

 
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Anonymous 
Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 17:08:15
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@All

Please read my questions and problem carefully. There is nothing wrong
with my boot device. I did all that and the WB-screen is still trashed
when running the Update 4 Install CD. The problem is that Radeon 9200/9250
is not quite compatible to AmigaOS4...

THAT is the problem. If you can't provide me a workaround-solution to this,
then i'll be forced to get myself an ATI Radeon 9000 instead...

 
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Varthall 
Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 17:25:15
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@Helgis

This seems to be the same softsprite problem that has plagued the update3 CD. I had the same problem installing it (I own a Radeon 9200, too). Unfortunately, while with update3 the problem surfaced after having installed the system, this time it comes out already while trying to boot the install CD. I have found three ways to overcome this problem:

- updating the update3 partition (not ideal, since I wanted to make a fresh install)
- modifying the "softsprite" tooltype directly on the install CD
- making a temporary partition (DH4:), copying the upd4 WB from DH0 to DH4, booting from DH4, deleting DH0, installing upd4 into DH0, booting again from DH0 and erasing the temporary partition DH4 (I have done myself this way, with success)

Here are some quick instructions on how to install using the latter two methods, I hope I'll not leave anything out. Of course, make sure you've already made a backup of your WB upd3!

1) Making a new CD (untested)
- boot the upd3 partition on HD
- insert the upd4 CD, copy all its contents to a directory on HD
- go into the newly created directory, go to Devs/Monitors (the one which is on the root directory and the one which stays in the "System" one, too) and set inside "Radeon" the tooltype "SOFTSPRITE=YES"
- make a new, bootable CD with the modified upd4 contents using these instructions:
http://intuitionbase.com/static.php?section=en_Boot-CD
note: you'll need MakeCD and, it seems, an updated makecdromfs.module from the program's webpage, the demo version of MakeCD should work, too
- boot with the newly created install CD

2) Using a temporary partition (tested!)
- boot the upd3 partition on HD (let's say DH0)
- create a large enough temporary partition (let's say DH4)
- copy over there all your WB partition contents (minus the SDK dir, which will not be needed)
- set DH0 as not bootable, no automount, set DH4 as bootable, automount
- reboot
- after WB from DH4 has booted, make a quick format of DH0
- insert the upd4 CD and make a fresh install on DH0
- after the install has finished, don't reboot yet but go to DH0:Devs/Monitors and set inside "Radeon" the tooltype "SOFTSPRITE=YES"
- set DH0 as bootable, automount, set DH4 as not bootable, no automount
- reboot: you should now boot with upd4 on DH0
- make a quick format on DH4 as we don't need it anymore

Hope this helps. Let me know if anyone finds a different (or even easier) solution.
Varthall

Last edited by Varthall on 13-Feb-2006 at 05:29 PM.
Last edited by Varthall on 13-Feb-2006 at 05:26 PM.

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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 17:32:26
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@Helgis

Quote:
Please read my questions and problem carefully.


Everyone does.

Quote:
THAT is the problem. If you can't provide me a workaround-solution to this,


Your post strikes me as a bit hostile. Did you actually try setting the boot envs?

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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 17:42:00
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@Coder

No, i haven't tried...

 
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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 18:24:39
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@Helgis

I had exactly the same prob as you and its as Varthall says, the softsprite tooltype needs to be set to yes on the cd itself.

OR do as I did,
I just inserted the cd and run the installation, and installing it over the top of my existing partition.

This worked fine for me.

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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 13-Feb-2006 18:42:01
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@Helgis

Why don't you just follow the..

press ESC at early boot
Edit Amiga Multiboot option boot device: set sii 680 IDE CD-ROM first
press ESC
Use the settings without save

Simple as that. It should work!

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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 14-Feb-2006 0:12:12
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@Helgis

Quote:

Helgis wrote:
@Coder

No, i haven't tried...

Why do you ask for help when you refuse to listen to people anyways? And you also said you did all that when you didnt even try it out?

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Anonymous 
Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 14-Feb-2006 11:11:15
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@Tomas

It was only that bit. I managed to just run the Install CD within Workbench, not
booting from it entirely. Then i made a full install on a drawer at Diverse: before
formatting the OS4 partition and copy it over...

Now i just wonder how to get a higher screen resolution higher than the
1024 x 768 in 100Hz...

 
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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 14-Feb-2006 11:41:48
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@Helgis

Can you now edit the thread title to reflect that this problem is solved.

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Posted on 14-Feb-2006 11:52:55
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@Helgis

Quote:
No, i haven't tried...


Ic. But why the hostile post about no one being able to help you? You don't try the solutions being offered but still you "attack" the ones that helped or going help. Don't do that or one day no one wants to help anymore.

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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 15-Feb-2006 13:05:40
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@Coder

It hurts me that you think i was attacking others and not be grateful
for any help? If you read the topic you locked, you would know i finally
managed to set up Update 4, but there is still much to be done to have
it very much like i had with Update 3. I currently can't P.M any at the
moment, but that will come when everything is as supposed to be...

I don't know what you think, but surely i didn't mean anything wrong.
Please read the topics more carefully before making any decisions...

Again, thank you for inconveniences

 
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Re: Update 4 Install CD Shows Trashed WB-Screen (Help)...
Posted on 15-Feb-2006 13:09:45
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@Helgis

Quote:
Please read the topics more carefully before making any decisions...


I did. You started this thread but besides it you started about 3 others that are about the same you have here in your thread. That is spamming.

Also you came across hostile here and it was not the FIRST time. If you have a problem and no one helps you within 5 minutes you start posting that people should be reading your thread better. No need to deny that. And please stop starting new threads about the same stuff that you already have in another thread. I just closed down another one which was about this and about what I closed down yesterday. So last warning.

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@Helgis

Quote:
If you read the topic you locked, you would know i finally


I did and also yesterday when I locked it down already. That belongs here. So that people know that you solved it and they are not going to post, and waste time, solutions here while it is not needed.

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