Just following the thread on Morphzone about Sputnik it seems Marcik is making
good progress, checkout the acid2 test screenshot :)

Link to thread

Anyone got any news on Paihia?

Last edited by _Steve_ on 11-Aug-2006 at 09:27 PM.
Last edited by deakmann on 11-Aug-2006 at 04:13 PM.

Hello, well there's been lots going on, as always, but not much that means much to a non-Paihia developer. I'll pick out some interesting stuff though.

We have a new XML parser! The old one was a quick one I knocked up in a day for temporary use that would allow work to go on in other areas. But it was getting to the limits of its usefulness so in January I began work on the real one. 3 months later it was done: a XML 1.0 validating parser in just 14,000 lines of code (7000 lines if you don't count the unit tests). It passes 75%ish of the XML conformance tests. Of the failed tests, some are disputed and some involve real bugs, in particular with international character handling. But all of them are low priority that don't impact on it's main purpose: to process XHTML.

More recently, on the back of the new XML stuff, it also produces a new style DOM object, that I've written a superfast event disapatcher for (this'll support the DOM Events specification).

There's also a new layouter, but I've still not integrated it with the new XML stuff yet.

What else? Well the website doesn't get updated much because there's not much to say that (I think) people will relate to. Screenshots? No, there hasn't been anything visual for quite a while because Paihia exists as a large collection of non-visual classes, even the new layouter doesn't even have any visual element - this is boring for everyone, but it makes automated testing very easy (also very portable: Paihia is entirely ISO C++ & STL and doesn't use any third party APIs apart from the and a few BOOST ones). Hopefully we might see some end-to-end processing (file to "picture") sometime this year when some more joining up goes on.

Thanks for asking though (you too, samo79 and AmiBoy - I only just spotted your thread).

Last edited by smithy on 11-Aug-2006 at 06:37 PM.

@smithy

To be honest, the parser bit sounded interesting. Maybe not hot news but stil interesting.

Does this mean you are close to beta testing ?

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@Seer

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To be honest, the parser bit sounded interesting. Maybe not hot news but stil interesting. Does this mean you are close to beta testing ?

No not really...

@smithy

Sounds like solid progress. The code that does all the work usually doesn't look interesting to users. I don't expect to see much in the way of screenshots until the underlying HTML processing stuff is done.

Your XML parser sounds quite compact. The XML parser libraries I've seen are usually megabytes of code.

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@smithy


Good to hear you are still working on Paihia and making steady progress.Sounds
like you still have a lot of work to do though.

Can`t wait to see the finished product.Pease, please, please backup your sources
to many good projects have been lost over the years due to HD failures etc.

@smithy

Thanks for your update
Only a question even if i know that it is not for now, a Flash support is planned ?

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Pease, please, please backup your sources to many good projects have been lost over the years due to HD failures etc.

Backup in multple places. Even CDRs/DVDRs can fail/deteriorate/break occasionally.

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Thanks for your update Only a question even if i know that it is not for now, a Flash support is planned ?

For version 1, the focus is on core standards that are essentials for modern web browsing: XHTML, CSS, DOM, Javascript. After that who knows what'll happen, maybe development will continue, maybe I'll open source it, maybe we'll be hit by an asteroid. I don't like to make plans (about anything, not just coding) more than 12 months ahead... so it's too early to say

@smithy

Ok

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@smithy

Thanks for the update. It would certainly be nice to see Flash supported in the future as lots of websites rely on it. But I'd be perfectly happy with something that supported CSS for now...

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@smithy

Great to see that it's a work in good progress

Do you want it to be a commercial product ? Shareware ?

Paihia is an XHTML engine, so one will have to code a browser, just guessing ?

@Hombre

Bump

@smithy

Hello Smithy, my November question () is:

Is it a realistic date (as your Website say at http://paihia.co.uk/) end of 2006 for a first Alpha version of Paihia ?

Thanks in advance for replay

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@samo79

IMHO, if Paihia people don't collaborate with the IBrowse team, both Paihia and IBrowse will vanish in favor of Sputnik when this one is released :-/

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@samo79

Yeah. Thats one programme I have dosh here waiting for.

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@elwood

IF Sputnik will ever make it to OS4...

...but there's still AWeb

@deakmann
Why exactly is this posted under OS4 software? This piece of software is not going to be released for OS4 according to what people say, so it sure as heck does not belong here?

Or is MorphOS now suddently the official OS4?

Last edited by Tomas on 05-Nov-2006 at 02:23 PM.
Last edited by Tomas on 05-Nov-2006 at 02:06 PM.

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This piece of software is not going to be released for OS4 according to what people say, so it sure as heck does not belong here?

I don't remember saying anything like that. I said that I don't plan to release OS4 version for free, as I personaly has no interest in that OS. But if someone can come with a deal that makes me and OS4-folks happy, then why not?

@marcik

Good thought.
I hope someone will make a deal with you.

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