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Morphix 
Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 15:00:53
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IS there a command that shts down the mahcine on AmigaOS 4.1?

Reboot one is cool would love to have a shut down one.

A third party utility could do the job for me.

?I know there is PegOff for Pegasos / 4.1 but would this work on my AmigaOne // Samantha as well?

I basically want to create an icon on the Doc of my AmigaOne that would shut down the machine.

Thanks.

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g0blin 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 15:37:53
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@Morphix

As far as I know there is nothing like it on AOS4.1

I guess the idea is making it as the old computers were; just switch them off when you are finished without worring about shoutdown procedures.

You could try to check on OS4 depot.

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Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 15:56:43
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@Morphix

I hope we get the SW shutdown option soon.

Some ideas that were thrown earlier:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=30157&forum=14

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JCC 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 16:33:17
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@Morphix

I would like this feature so I can shut down my A1 remotely.

I am away from home and use VNC to access my A1, and gain respite from the world of WinXX. However that makes it vulnerable to hacking. (I did write a script that kills the AmiVNC4 process with ^C and removes the vulnerability, but the computer still is on and wastes power.) Instead of leaving it on, my wife turns it on and off for me. A shut down command will let me perform the "off" part remotely.

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Severin 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 17:57:58
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@Morphix

Software shutdown is evil do not let it into the amiga world. One of the big points of AmigaOS is that you DON'T have to shut it down, just switch off and the system will reboot with no problems.

PegOff will not work, it's hardware specific.

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Templario 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 18:01:44
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@Morphix

In OS4depot there is a little good utility called os4reboot that lets you reboot your system, soft or hard but it doesn't shut down your system (I have this question several months ago) this utility you can donwload here:
http://os4depot.net/share/utility/workbench/os4reboot.lha

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Deniil715 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 18:14:55
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@Morphix

I would also like a shutdown command. Would be especially nice to have when remote accessing the Amiga.

Having a shutdown command doesn't automatically mean that there will be a shutdown *procedure* and that we MUST use it. You could still just hit the switch, but the switch could be in AmiDock instead of on the floor behind the desk!

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bennymee 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 18:24:59
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@Severin

Well I would like some sort of hybernate function. Shut it down and the applications you have open come back without opening them again.
And how to bypass the 5 seconds you to press the powerbutton on ATX-PSU ?

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swoodall 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 18:27:55
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@Severin

There is a difference between a required "must shutdown all applications and flush to disk to shutdown safely without data loss" and an option to turn off the machine with software control. There is no reason the second would even evolve to the first, especially since there are so many hardware platforms where the second couldn't even be mandatory for all.


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g0blin 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 18:41:10
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@JCC

What do we need a shotdown feature for, when our wives kill that switch?
Wait a minute... mine doesn't, even if I make a drawing of where it is!!!

Oh boy, I guess I need it too!

Greetings from Italy

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Chain-Q 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 18:42:01
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@Morphix

As far as i know, at least no AmigaOne *hardware* supports ATX power off. So there's no way a software could trigger a power off there. I don't know about Samantha though.

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Morphix 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 19:42:03
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Quote:
but the switch could be in AmiDock instead of on the floor behind the desk!


That is the point.

Plus the fact that my switch off button does not work very well sometimes. When I press it, it switches the machine off, turning it on again almost immediately. It has to be pressed very well, to have the machine tuend off for good. I am afraid that this could do harm to my A1. I know that I should open the tower and check it but I basically got no time -and room- for it, at the moment.

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JCC 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 21:13:26
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@g0blin
Quote:
What do we need a shotdown feature for, when our wives kill that switch?
Wait a minute... mine doesn't, even if I make a drawing of where it is!!!
Mine does know where the power switch is, so I don't need it, but it would be nice.

Regarding drawing pictures: I photographed my computer before traveling just so I could "draw a picture" - and used it when my wife had to load a blank DVD for the quarterly backup, making sure it was in the burner, not the reader.

Regards, from a New Yorker in Texas.
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Severin 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 21:19:35
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@Morphix

That's probably your psu (mine also does it), some of the better ones have a reset function built in, a quick press just does the same as a cold reboot, you have to press for a bit longer to power down.

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Ancalimon 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 1-Jan-2010 22:58:03
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When many programs that has access to writing on disk are running at the same time like a torrent utility, a downloader, a web browser, etc.. , it's a good idea have some software shut down which will turn all these programs off.

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Smurfen 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 2-Jan-2010 0:32:41
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I would prefer a system that never needs to be shut down.

When I leave my computer I would simply press amiga-.... some key... to activate powersave and be done with it. (Or simply let X minutes pass to go into hibernation)

To resume to working state functions like
-Wake on lan
-Alarm clock
-Keyboard click
-Mouse movement
-Physical button in moboard, keyboard or power unit
-SMS or other enablers

When the hibernation is executed all program states are saved, so if I remove the power supply, the next tme I power it up, it would just be a "wake up from hibernation"

In the above scenario, there would be no such thing as power down.







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CodeSmith 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 2-Jan-2010 0:38:56
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@Ancalimon

Exactly, a global system notification would be a good thing to have. Back when CBM existed there were very few background processes that would benefit from a shutdown notification. Nowadays there's bittorrent, scheduled backups and defrags, etc.

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Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
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@Smurfen

I think both are needed. WOL is IMHO the best thing since sliced bread for things like home fileservers.

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Hypex 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 2-Jan-2010 7:19:04
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@Severin

Quote:
Software shutdown is evil do not let it into the amiga world.


Too late. We've needed this for years. Shutting down applications is a responsible act needed before a computer is shut off. A shutdown "button" you'd see in computers today probably makes it lazy.

A few examples. If I don't quit YAM, it won't like, it needs to rebuild a cache index. If I don't quit IBrowse I lose my cache. If I don't quit Wordworth I can lose a document.

So it would be good to know what is running before I think I can just switch off.

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Gebrochen 
Re: Shut Down Command on OS 4.1
Posted on 2-Jan-2010 8:24:13
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@All wanting a shutdown

Commentless,

Speechless,

Remarkless,

Wordless.

Last edited by Gebrochen on 02-Jan-2010 at 08:33 AM.

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