IF it gets the pledge level.

IF it gets finished.

IT may be released as source to the AmigaOS4 community.

IF someone takes the project on

IT may then run on AmigaOS4x

A looooooong shot I know, BUT

IT made me pledge my $15

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-directors-cut/posts/291737

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Well, it may seem remote right now, but it is a definite possibility, and good news in any case. Life has taught me that what might seem like remote chances may actually turn in to very real things.

I loved the original Wings, and had already backed this project, but an Amiga version would certainly be a great bonus, and very appropriate. The link between the Amiga and Cinemaware is undeniable, and perhaps there are even some shared PR opportunities here. This Kickstarter may have gotten off to a slow start, but I've seen these things turn around many times now, and wouldn't be surprised at all if they made it. Most recently, I was following the Shadowrun Online campaign. Only 2-3 days before the end, they were still something like $200 000 below the target of $500 000. When the campaign closed, they had nearly $560 000.

Cinemaware were awesome. I would love to see them return. (Not unlike the Amiga platform)

Kay

Am I the only one who finds Kickstarter projects, without any significant prior work to show they are capable of achieving what they promise, to be extremely dodgy? Almost any idiot (or scam artist) these days can create flashy pictures, web sites & even videos, so that doesn't prove much. If Kickstarter hasn't been used by optimistic idiots or scammers yet (and I think they have) then it can't be much longer.

I don't count a quick "port" of an old Amiga game to iOS (which I guess was just a modified version of UAE to play the game) as proof they can create a brand new game from scratch using the latest platforms & technologies.

Contrary to their bio, this "Cinemaware" is not the same company as the one that created all those Amiga classics (as they went bust). Maybe they have some of the same people, but I don't even see any claim of that (let alone proof).

I mean, whatever happened to that Viva Amiga film/documentary thing? Exactly how long does it take to make a documentary anyway? And they were "only" asking for $25,000 (rather than the $350,000 being asked here - hardly pocket change).

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Yes there is that element of doubt with me too... But I can chance losing $15.

Re "that film"
Viva Amiga. Last Kickstarter update June 2012.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vivaamiga/viva-amiga-the-documentary-film/posts

Latest amigafilm blog July 2012
http://vivaamigafilm.blogspot.co.uk/

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@ChrisH

It's a risk, alright. However, given the current state of the video games industry, I think it is a risk many people are willing to take. With a few notable exceptions, such as CD Project and GOG, it is my impression that the industry is getting less and less customer friendly, and maybe also less developer friendly, if Brian Fargo's Kickstarter promo video is anything to go by. Crowd/fan funding offers a way to bypass publishers, and while there is certainly a high risk that some projects will not deliver what they promise, I think the risk is worth it. Would Brian Fargo have been allowed to make a turn based, isometric RPG if he needed to go through a publisher? Well, apparently he tried for years, without success. And that's a pretty legendary developer. I'm guessing unproven developers have even less of a chance.

Kay

Unless Franko puts in the other $300,000 it does not look like this will reach it's funding level. Only 4 days left, you never know till the end I guess.

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DiscreetFX wrote: Unless Franko puts in the other $300,000 it does not look like this will reach it's funding level. Only 4 days left, you never know till the end I guess.

I could i suppose... if I were totally insane and not just mad but as I've already said elsewhere on this site, backing something that is of no use to me doesn't make good business sense and it this case it would make total nonsense...

Maybe now Tedd's retired and left Amiga.org to yourself you could sell up the site for the 1 million bucks that Tedd said he wanted in the MobyG interview and you could buy the project outright...

That's of course assuming you're Bill P. speaking here and not Tedd G. (Kinda hard to tell when you use a shared account)...

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I could i suppose... if I were totally insane and not just mad but as I've already said elsewhere on this site, backing something that is of no use to me doesn't make good business sense and it this case it would make total nonsense...

Now why in the world do you pretend you have 300k laying around? Cmon lets stop the silliness.

I actually had a former customer who was one of the animators/artists @ cinemaware. He was very close friends with Jim Sachs the famous amiga artist who worked for them as well. The crazy thing is Jim Sachs ended up doing some other company or something and making millions! He lives in some huge mansion in oregon or something..

@realize

I wonder if he did millions selling just a screensaver

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elwood wrote: @realize I wonder if he did millions selling just a screensaver

Ehrm, i believe he rather did the millions with this computrainer thingie

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I bet you didn't buy the Amiga 50$/¤ Coupon either

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realize wrote: @Franko Now why in the world do you pretend you have 300k laying around? Cmon lets stop the silliness.

Why do you pretend you know a single thing about my finances, c'mon stop the guessing and jealousy...

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Cinemaware stated it as a possibility because they have no idea about AmigaOS4.x's GFX capabilities (or lack thereof).

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I'm still not seeing a donation from Franko for $300,000 to make this HD version a success. Guess I have to refresh my browser.

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@Franko

Well I know you lie consistantly about your "finances" and its rather embarassing.

@ Thread

Yeah, I think it was that stupid screensaver he made all that money on now that you say this. Amazing right?

@DiscreetFX

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DiscreetFX wrote: I'm still not seeing a donation from Franko for $300,000 to make this HD version a success. Guess I have to refresh my browser.

Nope... but you really need to get an adult to read things for you as the answer to your sad attempt at taking the piss has already been given...

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You should show discreet some respect. He has done FAR more than you have for the amiga community. You dont even run an NG system why do you come here?

@ddni

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ddni wrote: IF it gets the pledge level. IF it gets finished. IT may be released as source to the AmigaOS4 community. IF someone takes the project on IT may then run on AmigaOS4x A looooooong shot I know, BUT IT made me pledge my $15

This is interesting:
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we will be making the necessary source assets of the original PC version of Wings: Director's Cut available for porting by any developer that is interested in doing so once we finish production of the main version!

Looks good but I miss some text like "for free"

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I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

@ddni

Quote:

ddni wrote: IF it gets the pledge level. IF it gets finished. IT may be released as source to the AmigaOS4 community. IF someone takes the project on IT may then run on AmigaOS4x A looooooong shot I know, BUT IT made me pledge my $15

This is interesting:
Quote:

we will be making the necessary source assets of the original PC version of Wings: Director's Cut available for porting by any developer that is interested in doing so once we finish production of the main version!

Looks good but I miss some text like "for free"

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I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0