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www.troikang.com wrote: Amy is ready, willing and able to operate AmigaOs4 that she was originally designed for. Our only obstacle at the present time, is the lawsuit between Amiga Inc., and Hyperion.

But Acube found a way to release AOS4.1.. Is there anything that stands in the way of amy05 being released right now with AOS4.1?

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Yssing wrote: Quote: www.troikang.com wrote: Amy is ready, willing and able to operate AmigaOs4 that she was originally designed for. Our only obstacle at the present time, is the lawsuit between Amiga Inc., and Hyperion. But Acube found a way to release AOS4.1.. Is there anything that stands in the way of amy05 being released right now with AOS4.1?

We are still waiting for updated information on Amy05 (Amy08?, maybe now?) I don't recall actually ever seeing the board, myself. Has anyone seen it? Does it at least run Linux? And if Hyperion are stating THEY don't have it, well... just who is porting OS4.x to it?

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We are still waiting for updated information on Amy05 (Amy08?, maybe now?) I don't recall actually ever seeing the board, myself. Has anyone seen it? Does it at least run Linux? And if Hyperion are stating THEY don't have it, well... just who is porting OS4.x to it?

Who cares??!! Troika has minimal business presence/accountability in the Amiga marketplace. ACK Controls and Troika both come across as dreamers who have money to burn rather than a professional business with a with a love for the Amiga platform i.e. ACube!

I remember an Audio stream from a Big Bash event back in 2005/2006, when a rather eccentric geeky type chap ranted away about how "It'll be out really shortly guys, trust me! A prototype board has already been sent to Hyperion etc, etc, etc". It was a farce then and it's a farce now. Troika is a waste of space!!!

Buy a Sam440EP, support ACube and give the Amiga a future (before Amiga Inc. wake up and spoil the fun ).

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And if Hyperion are stating THEY don't have it, well... just who is porting OS4.x to it?

If Hyperion is not working on it, then no one is. And I know what Hyperion is working on, so...

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Buy a Sam440EP, support ACube and give the Amiga a future

I second that. If everybody assumes the "wait and see whether something better will come out" then you can be damn sure that NOTHING will come out.

Plus, we'll have a whole bunch of people complaining that they didn't get a board when they where still available.

There's hardware now. If you want AmigaOS, go buy it.

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@Rogue

If you (or better Hyperion) want more people to buy OS and board at that prices, at least port Firefox and OpenOffice.org on it. You now have the time and knowledge for such project. Those apps are open source, but community can support your work by donating for that purpose.

No matter how I love Amiga in general, I won't buy computer without modern browser and "all world" compatible office suite... or let me correct myself , I wont buy PPC only amiga....

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Slightly confusing nick name you have then for someone that doesn't support PPC Amigas....

Rude!

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I wont buy PPC only amiga...

Erm, "amigappc"...

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amigappc wrote: @Rogue If you (or better Hyperion) want more people to buy OS and board at that prices, at least port Firefox and OpenOffice.org on it. You now have the time and knowledge for such project. Those apps are open source, but community can support your work by donating for that purpose. No matter how I love Amiga in general, I won't buy computer without modern browser and "all world" compatible office suite... or let me correct myself , I wont buy PPC only amiga....

Let me get this straight, you want Rogue to continue working on improving Amiga OS 4.x, and to port Firefox and OpenOffice? Do you have any idea how much effort any of those require? That is just unrealistic. BTW, the effort of porting Firefox and OpenOffice would be worth more if there were more users. So I also encourage people to buy a SAM 440 with Amiga OS 4.1. New hardware is finally available so don't miss your opportunity.

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@Rudei

I support Hyperion, Acube, Rogue and all about Amiga....

But I wont spend that kind of money on "hobby OS and computer".

I have A1200 and A500 for that.

If I decide to buy that machine, I want to make use of it in all every day segments.

Not to mention bringing new users on platform....

-FF is a must
-OO is a must
-Java is a must
-Flash is a must

@Hans

So you say that Rogue is only developer working for Hyperion?

If that is true, that is very nice indeed.

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I support Hyperion, Acube, Rogue and all about Amiga.... But I wont spend that kind of money on "hobby OS and computer". I have A1200 and A500 for that. If I decide to buy that machine, I want to make use of it in all every day segments. Not to mention bringing new users on platform.... -FF is a must -OO is a must -Java is a must -Flash is a must

These things take an incredible amount of time and work and it is unrealistic to a few people to suddenly conjure up what you want.

Support developer and companies now if you want to see any of this in the future, otherwise you might as well close your account here and just forget about OS4.

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amigappc wrote: @Hans So you say that Rogue is only developer working for Hyperion? If that is true, that is very nice indeed.

Where on earth did I say that? No, there are multiple people, but the Friedens are key developers (e.g., the only ones, AFAIK, that can work on the OS full time). Pulling any of the developers away from working on the OS is not a good idea.

But that's not the point. Porting either Firefox or OpenOffice is NOT a one developer job. If you want to see more development for Amiga OS 4.x, we need more users. So it doesn't help when users say "I'm not buying until I get X and Y for less than $Z."

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More developers will do the trick I think, more users asking questions won’t help unless that generate the needed cash flow for more fulltime developers that is.

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amigappc wrote: @Rudei I support Hyperion, Acube, Rogue and all about Amiga.... But I wont spend that kind of money on "hobby OS and computer". I have A1200 and A500 for that. If I decide to buy that machine, I want to make use of it in all every day segments. Not to mention bringing new users on platform.... -FF is a must -OO is a must -Java is a must -Flash is a must

Afaik it runs Linux nicely, so you can make it a nice dual-booting machine, and when you need Java, OOo, Flash and FF, you can get it via Linux.

That way you both support the OS4-effort, and get a machine that handles what you need for everyday use via Linux, until those are available for OS4.

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@tomazkid

There is also the remote desktop option, and you can also emulate MacOS7.5.x, MacOS7.6.x MacOS8.x, so there are lots of options, do what you need to do.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

How well does that run on Sam?

Already decided to install AOS4.1 (Obviously), Linux and AROS, when Sam eventually turns up at my doorstep. (Yeah I know I'm being inpatient. Knowing it doesn't help )

Will try Mac OSes above, just for the hell of it, if they will run at a decent speed.

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There is also the remote desktop option, and you can also emulate MacOS7.5.x, MacOS7.6.x MacOS8.x, so there are lots of options, do what you need to do.

You forgot MacOSX, at least it did run at decent speed on my XE.

Remote Desktop and VNC are nice, though you need another computer for that.

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@TiredofLife

I think that will work fine, it’s a question of memory bandwidth and CPU power, as it uses interpreted emulation,

I have not tested so I can’t confirm it, there might be some problems finding and buying old MacOS software, so it best if you already have lots of software for MacOS.

I’m currently improving the GUI for it, there where some stuff I was unhappy about.

One thing I most say always have rescue disk image, MacOS7/MacOS8 can easily corrupt it self, if that happens MacOS won’t boot from that disk.

The Mac Emulator uses real AmigaOS partitions, which make the disk access really fast, disk images are slow; only use disk images to install the OS.

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But whit MacOnLinux, you most reboot in too Linux to use it.

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