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tonyw 
Core voltage?
Posted on 11-Jun-2006 4:12:34
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I can't find the recommended core voltage for a 750FX. Can anyone point me to the information somewhere?

Thanks.

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Re: Core voltage?
Posted on 11-Jun-2006 4:23:37
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@tonyw

One of the better vcore threads:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15763&forum=14

Also DrBombcrater in post #6 here:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9721&forum=33

I vaguely remember Samwel posting a direct link on vcore for 750FX also.
Maybe he'll respond here.

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Re: Core voltage?
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@tonyw

750fxdd2_ds.pdf , page 10 for vcore voltage - 1.4V to 1.5V.

The 750GX is the same, default vcore is 1.44V, but I have mine set at 1.39V for stability.

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@sundown

Doesn`t that make it LESS stable?

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Excellent stuff, thanks. Just what I wanted.

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@Frags

Not neccessarely. 750GX 800MHz has 1.40-1.45V default core voltage.
It can actually be that his A1 is delivering a little bit higher voltage than
what the specs says. So in that case 1.44V would be too much and 1.39V
works fine.
I have mine set at 1.44V and is stable as can be

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Usually, the higher you are in the voltage range (but still well within it), the higher the power consumption but at the same time the CPU gets far more stable. Never undervoltage CPUs for any reason.

Also, if it delivers a bit higher, it should still be in spec. For example, if 1.44 is 1.5, it's fine. Heck, it's it's 1.55 it's still fine.

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If it`s still solid when undervolted then it could be a prime candidate for overclocking :o)

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No. Undervoltaging the CPU increases the propagation delay of the gates. If you want to overclock, you do NOT undervoltage, you use the CPU at the maximum allowed voltage, or if you REALLY know what you are doing, overvoltage.

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What I mean to say is: if it`s stable at a low voltage then it will handle high voltages well hence, overclock well. Like an Athlon mobile for example.

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Ah, yes, indeed.

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@AMiGR

I wonder what you can get the bus up to on an Articia (in an overclocking situation). Does the ram run at 133 or 100?

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@Frags

My micro would sometimes boot to a black screen & almost always would lock up in the first couple of minutes. I went up to 1.49V, but the lockups got worst. At 1.39V, the black screen & lockups were gone.

Samwel has a valid point, as every component has a +/- tolerance & that could easily change the default voltage up or down.

I did look into overclocking my system. I was hoping my GX was a 933MHz part, I removed the heatsink & read the part number, but it was a 800MHz chip, so no overclocking for me.

/me waiting for the 1.7GHz module

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Excellent stuff, thanks. Just what I wanted.

Great, glad to help.

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@sundown

If your system loses stability as you increase the core voltage then I would suspect the cooling system (or an as-yet-undiscovered Articia bug maybe).

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You're overheating.

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@Frags

The GX runs very cool so my feeling is the vcore interacts with the rise time of the clock. The rise time of a clock will change slightly as components warm up, changing the prop delay between some signals. As components warm up, you can get a shift in prop delays that can either make a system unstable or make a system more stable. Only way to tell is with the proper test equipment. Been running stable now for the last 7 months.

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Truly any variation in vcore will affect many things but I believe a check of cooling is in order nevertheless.

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If I was over heating, the problem would have gotten worst with 'on' time, not better. I still think it was a slight clock shift problem because the instability disappeared when the system warmed up. Just the opposite a heat problem would cause. Would love to have a temp meter running though.

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@Frags

Been looking for a temp monitor that can be easily installed & I've checked the cooling, but I just don't see a problem there.

I was an Engineering Tech for 15 yrs & I've seen more timing problems then I care to mention.

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