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asian 
Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 8:35:06
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I found that both Wikipedia articles on AmigaOne and Samantha will be deleted soon.

Can someone improve/change the page to avoid the deletion?

Is this deletion related to "Intel Inside" campaign or large donation from Intel?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOne

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_PowerPC_Motherboard

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Varthall 
Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 9:03:17
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@asian

I fail to understand why it should be deleted for "Notability not established". Is "not so famous" hardware not worth being mentioned in Wikipedia?

I hope that something could be done to keep the page up. At least for the "not referenced" bit. How long does the page stays up before being deleted?

Edit: I very much doubt that this does anything to do with any "Intel inside campaign". The reason behind this is that Wiki's moderators think that the A1 is too little known to be worth of mention.

Varthall

Last edited by Varthall on 22-Oct-2006 at 09:13 AM.
Last edited by Varthall on 22-Oct-2006 at 09:05 AM.

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hatschi 
Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 10:02:45
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@asian

Quote:
Is this deletion related to "Intel Inside" campaign or large donation from Intel?




Thanks, this made my day.

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dan.hutch 
Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 11:13:59
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@asian

Good old conspiracy theories. Seems a shame it's going to be deleted, i don't really get why though? Is that page of text just too much of a burden on their servers or what?

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Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 11:33:05
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@dan.hutch

Samantha have an AMD Geode???

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Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 12:41:57
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@Varthall

I've added some further references. I'm sure one of the tech sites (ARS?) did a review of AmigaOne hardware. If anybody finds it, please can you add it to the article as another reference.

Not sure how to fix the "notability" bit.

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Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 12:44:53
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Samantha have an AMD Geode???

Refer to AMD's south bridge companion chip i.e. AMD "Geode 5536".

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Plaz 
Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 12:58:18
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@asian

Odd, but I don't see it as that big of a deal. I breifly read the article on AmigaOne and I would agree that it could use some work. If it's deleted, I'm sure a new and better written article could be submitted. The poster that disputes the validity of AmigaOne sure sounds like a disgruntaled AW.net user.

I would suggest that some one more familiar with AmigaOne history than I edit the page with more generic, cold, non-biased facts instead of descriptions like " MAI Logic Inc, a fabulous Taiwanese-American integrated circuit (IC) company.

If I understand correctly, the main dispute is that AmigaOne is a marketing trademark and not a computer platform. Seems to me it's both, but the article needs cleaning up.

Plaz

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Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 12:59:56
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@AmigaBlitter
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Samantha have an AMD Geode???
Yes, it has a Geode. I'm really surprised you didn't know that already, given the considerable promotion you give the Samantha project.

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asian 
Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 13:39:39
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When I ask the Wikipedia Editor (Mer-C) why he did not delete the Wikipedia Pegasos entry:

"The notability of that one is established."

What is the meaning of this sentence?

Is this another plot by BBRV/Genesi against Eyetech/Soft3?

Is there any data about Samantha and AmigaOne real power consumption?

>Fabulous

It should be FABLESS IC company:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fabless





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hatschi 
Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 13:59:03
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@asian

Quote:
Is this deletion related to "Intel Inside" campaign or large donation from Intel?

Quote:
Is this another plot by BBRV/Genesi against Eyetech/Soft3?


Please, stop the insanity already.

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Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 14:30:27
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Posted on 22-Oct-2006 14:33:06
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@_ThEcRoW

Honestly, I never know wether I should laugh or cry about this level of naiveity.

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SvenHarvey 
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Posted on 22-Oct-2006 15:54:52
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@hatschi

Quite - it was flagged for deletion because there had been no proof/references... nothing more... sheeesh.

Hopefully one of the admins will delete the Samantha article and leave the AmigaOne one... Samantha shouldnt really go up until its released.

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Plaz 
Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 15:59:23
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@asian
Quote:
"The notability of that one is established."

What is the meaning of this sentence?

Not positive, but probably just that there is a confirmed link where one can read about and purchase a Pegasos system. It is established, it exist. The AmigaOne article needs similar links. WIth Eyetech A1 sites gone, some other proof is needed. Maybe links to the Big book of Amiga Hardware would do. Links to AW.net threads describing the A1 would apear to be thin proof if any that A1 exist to any one completly unfamiliar with Amiga.

Quote:
>Fabulous

It should be FABLESS IC company:

Proves the point that the page needs clean up before it get the axe.

BTW, I'd be happy to help edit the article if others could help in supplying more detail and info.

Plaz

Last edited by Plaz on 22-Oct-2006 at 04:05 PM.
Last edited by Plaz on 22-Oct-2006 at 04:03 PM.

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Shadowolf 
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Posted on 22-Oct-2006 16:31:44
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MAI really went bankrupt?

Is there any proof to this?
I mean I suspected as much but I have not
found any proof for this so far.

What about the Asian subsidary,is it on the web somewhere?
Or what about Mentor, sounds like MAI was (is) only a small
branch of a much bigger company.
Anyone found a link for this yet?

I would love to get my hands on more technical data
than already has leaked sometime ago.
Layout-data would be very nice.
Or data on the XE.

I already asked Eyetech but did not even receive a negative answer.

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Posted on 22-Oct-2006 16:33:35
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@Shadowolf

Mentor IS MAI, MAI = Mentor Arc Incorporated.

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Posted on 22-Oct-2006 17:37:46
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability

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Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 17:45:16
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@Shadowolf

Quote:

Shadowolf wrote:

What about the Asian subsidary,is it on the web somewhere?
Or what about Mentor, sounds like MAI was (is) only a small
branch of a much bigger company.
Anyone found a link for this yet?


Like AMiGR wrote; Mai Logic = Mentor. They are/were part of the Atum Group, which also include(s|d) Inguard Inc. I wouldn't know about "much bigger". All their websites/domains seem to be gone now.

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Re: Intel Inside Campaign on Wikipedia Against AmigaOS 4 HW?
Posted on 22-Oct-2006 17:47:35
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@Shadowolf

Re:Mai Logic
They were listed in the past on IBM's website of PPC partners.
They are not listed there anymore.
It was mentioned in irc by a former employee that the current line of thinking
was that they had "retreated to China".
Take this for whatever it is worth...

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