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A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 25-Mar-2009 15:43:43
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I have been compiling a list of coolers suitable for the AmigaOneXE CPU modules. What I still need to make the list into a usable source for Amigaworld users is... 1) your CPU version (750FX, G3, G4, 7451, 7455, 7457) 2) the cooler you are using 3) the vcore and speed or your CPU 4) the temperature at which your CPU is running.
The list so far... COOLING METHODS FOR A1 ---------------------- COOLER MASTER BLUE ICE PRO (C283-2027) HS dimensions: 43.4 x 43.4 x 30mm HS material: copper HS mounting: Northbridge fan dimensions: 40 x 40 x 10mm fan speed: 4500RPM air flow: 4.5CFM bearing: sleeve noise: 22 - 26dBA weight: 90g price: $15.00 - $19.00 (US) CPU: ? VCORE: ? CPU Temp ?
VANTEC ICEBERQ 5 PREMIUM (CCB-A5C) HS dimensions: 110 x 88 7 x 31.6mm HS material: copper HS mounting: VGA style fan dimensions: 110 x 88.7 x 31.6mm (built into HS) fan speed: 2500RPM air flow: ? bearing: ball noise: ? weight: 320g price: $20.00 - $35.00 (US) CPU: ? VCORE: ? CPU Temp ?
SWIFTECH MCX159-R (possibly the best A1 cooler; recommended by GuruMeditation) HS dimensions: 40.4 x 40.4 x 42mm HS material: copper & aluminum (full copper version exists) HS mounting: chipset fan dimensions: 40.4 x 40 4 x 20.8mm fan speed: ? air flow: 6CFM bearing: ? noise: 18dBA weight: 238g price: $28.00 - $35.00 CPU: 7455 @933Mhz VCORE: 1.84 CPU Temp 43.6C
THERMALTAKE CRYSTAL ORB (Warning: known to fry some AmigaOne modules) HS dimensions: 50 x 50 x 15mm HS material: nickel & copper HS mounting: Northbridge fan dimensions: 50 x 50 x 15mm (built into HS) fan speed: 5500RPM air flow: 12.4CFM bearing: ball noise: 26 4dBA weight: ? price: $8.50 - $12.00 CPU: ? VCORE: ? CPU Temp ?
THERMALTAKE EXTREME SPIRIT II (CL-0034) HS dimensions: 70 x 48 x 40mm HS material: copper (heatpipe) HS mounting: Northbridge (needs no modification to fit CPU module) fan dimensions: 40 x 40 x 10mm (built into HS) fan speed: 4500RPM air flow: 3.47CFM bearing: ? noise: 19dBA weight: 169g price: $10.00 - $35.00 (US) CPU: ? VCORE: ? CPU Temp ?
ZALMAN VF700-ALCU HS dimensions: 91 x 126.4 x 30mm HS material: aluminum & copper (fins) (full copper version exists) HS mounting: VGA style fan dimensions: 91 x 126.4 x 30mm (built into HS) fan speed: 1350 - 2650RPM air flow: ? bearing: 2 ball noise: 18.5 - 28.5dBA weight: 180g price: $19.00 - $37.00 (US) CPU: ? VCORE: ? CPU Temp 37 degrees
ZALMAN VF900-CU (possibly the best A1 cooler) HS dimensions: 96 x 96 x 30mm HS material: copper (fins & heatpipe) HS mounting: VGA style fan dimensions: 96 x 96 x 30mm (built into HS) fan speed: 1350 - 2400RPM air flow: ? bearing: 2 ball noise: 18.5 - 25.0dBA weight: 185g price: $31.00 - $55.00 CPU: 7455 @800Mhz VCORE: 1 59V CPU Temp 37C
COOLERMASTER HEATSINK WITH ZALMAN FAN & FB123 BRACKET (Possibly best price-to-performance ratio) HS dimensions: 43.4 x 43.4 x 30mm HS material: copper HS mounting: Northbridge fan dimensions: 92mm fan speed: 1300 - 4000RPM air flow: 24.6 - 78.7CFM bearing: sleeve & ball noise: 20dBA weight: ? price: $10.00 - $20.00 (US) CPU: 7557 @1Ghz VCORE: ? CPU Temp 32 - 37 degrees
GRAPH-O-MATIC Rev 3 WATERCOOL dimensions: 50 x 40 x 33mm material: plated copper weight: 155g price: $50.00 (US)($60.00 with Northbridge mounting) CPU: 7455@1066MHz VCORE: 1.84V CPU Temp: 38 degrees Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 06-Apr-2009 at 01:57 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 02-Apr-2009 at 06:36 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 26-Mar-2009 at 06:47 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 26-Mar-2009 at 03:47 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 26-Mar-2009 at 03:46 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 25-Mar-2009 at 04:15 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 25-Mar-2009 at 04:15 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 25-Mar-2009 at 03:48 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 25-Mar-2009 at 03:47 PM. Last edited by PhantomInterrogative on 25-Mar-2009 at 03:46 PM.
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 25-Mar-2009 19:24:30
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 25-Mar-2009 19:36:08
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I had the same question a few months ago. Many that replied had the VF900CU on their A1 and is capable of keeping the CPU very cool at a nice quiet low speed.
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 25-Mar-2009 21:18:01
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I do have a dual purpose in this thread. Firstly, I would like to provide a handy reference for others in the OS4 Zone. Secondly, I would like to find out what is the best price-performance cooler for the AmigaOne. I recently found that the Thermaltake store is blowing out their inventory of Extreme Spirit Northbridge coolers (C1-C0034) at around $9.00 (US). If it is comparable to the Zalman in performance, I'll buy one for my 7451.
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 25-Mar-2009 21:51:32
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I use "detached" 90mm fan (on braket) blowing on module with CoolerMaster's heatsink without its fan:
link with some pics
Works fine for >1/2 year. There's also SilenX case fan and fanless PSU.
Jack
Last edited by jack on 25-Mar-2009 at 09:52 PM.
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 26-Mar-2009 18:49:27
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Your results seem comparable to both the Swiftec and VF900 solutions... for less money than the competition.
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 26-Mar-2009 19:05:34
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The combination is pretty quiet. The fan is 92 mm btw, and with the supplied resitor (silent mode) it is 20dB. Weight pretty low (only heatsink is attached to the module, bracket is attahce to pci cards' screws). No vibrations is a plus too. I use it with 80mm 14dB fan. Fanless psu. And the case is padded inside with sheets of foam. The machine almost is as quiet as my wife's thinkpad with fan on. BTW: the cpu here is 7557@1Ghz
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Last edited by jack on 26-Mar-2009 at 07:09 PM. Last edited by jack on 26-Mar-2009 at 07:07 PM.
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 6-Apr-2009 14:00:34
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The list is shaping up; however, I still need some performance information from users of the Cooler Master Blue Ice Pro, Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II, Vantec Iceberq 5 Premium, and Zalman VF700. If you have another good cooling solution, I'd like to hear from you.
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 6-Apr-2009 17:06:48
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The list is shaping up; however, I still need some performance information from users of the Cooler Master Blue Ice Pro, Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II, Vantec Iceberq 5 Premium, and Zalman VF700. If you have another good cooling solution, I'd like to hear from you Seriously too much input$. The ZALMAN FAN & FB123 BRACKET was best cooler upgrade for AmigaONE. The other cooler upgrade is a better ATX case. My Cooler Master C5 case was better design than the cheap case the A1 came in and Kurt Grach warned about this cheap case. See: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11367727@N07/ This case has a 120MM back fan, hardrive bay fans, and side cover downdraft tube to match the Zalman FB123 fan. The CoolerMaster Musketeer guage set is cool too; how are you going to know how hot or cold your CPU is running? The Centaurian5 was the coolest running case for 2004 by PC Magazine. So, you are going to add ATX case design to cooler list? _________________
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 6-Apr-2009 18:26:29
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You are right about the Zalman fan solution. Not too long after starting this thread, I ordered the NBF47 and FB123 for my AmigaOneXE.
You have a very good point about the case being a cooler. If the case traps hot air, the CPU cooler is just going to recycle that hot air. I will look into ATX case solutions; however, I don't think I'll put together as extensive research as I have in this thread. It is much easier for the average user to find a good ATX case solution, being that the AmigaOne mobo is ATX, than a CPU cooler solution for the AmigaOne CPU modules, being that no heatsinks/fans are sold specifically for PPC or even AmigaOne PPC modules.
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Re: A1XE CPU Cooler list Posted on 7-Apr-2009 16:34:27
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I am dubious about your list, especially if you really want to capture the "performance" part. There are many factors not included which will make it impossible to completely predict how well these will work in anyone's specific circumstances. Having a list of the basic available published data may still be of some use though.
The "performance" of a cooler should probably be listed scientifically as a value, e.g. in (degreesC/Watt). The Swiftech (the one I have) is the only one I found at the time which actually listed this spec on the Swiftech product webpage. The current all Cu version of this part lists as 1.25 °C/W, which is pretty weak performance actually.
Some of the additional factors which are important in the cooling are the ambient temperature, the thermal coefficient between the heatsink and the chip/die (flatness/paste/etc), the amount of through-case airflow,and how ideal the airflow is around the heatsink. For example, the MCX159 has good airflow/contact with the dissipating pins in the heatsink, however the driven airflow is top-down, which results in an omnidirectional airflow out of the heatsink. In a more enclosed space without good through-airflow, this can result in trapping some of the heating air as it circulates within the space, instead of cycling all the heated air out as a linear airflow would. In my case (an old Antec Overture), I had to add an additional fan just to blow horizontally across my Swiftech to keep the temp as low as I wanted. So I don't recommend this (expensive) product unless you have a case with very good intrinsic airflow. It's also much smaller (volume) than really needed on the A1 CPU module, so there is additional efficiency you are losing by adopting a small form factor. If you have to add a helper fan to it, you probably get better performance/$ from a simple large radiator like one of the Zalman's or a heatpipe + a fan.
Also, I'm guessing most of these temperature values you will get reported are from the CPU onboard temp measurement, (via CPUTemp docky or some other way of reading the TAU registers), and these temp values are totally NOT to be relied on at all. In my experience they can vary 15° or more even within what should be identical families or masks. CPUTemp even lets you "calibrate" the value with slope/intercept parameters, so you can end up with any value you like :)
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