what are the implications?

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TheDungeonDelver wrote: what are the implications?

Thom Holwerda have to eat his socks and upload the video to youtube

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It means we will have a mil spec Amiga, Doomy will finally be able to replace his mil spec A2000 with a new system.

Until the cpu is officially announced, it's still a guess, but a very good guess.

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8800 MIPS @ 2.0 GHz

Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

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what are the implications?

Pancakes?

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@HammerD

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8800 MIPS @ 2.0 GHz

1000 SpecInt2000 and 1500-2000 SpecFp2000 (according to PA Semi estimation).

For comparison: 7455 1 GHz (PowerMac G4) 307 SpecInt2000 and 188 SpecFp2000 (benchmarked by ct magazine).

@pavlor

It's certainly very fast compared to existing PowerPC chips that run OS4.

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@HammerD

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It's certainly very fast compared to existing PowerPC chips that run OS4.

Yes. And unique. AmigaOne X1000 is (and will be) probably sole personal/desktop computer that uses this CPU!

And now please compare it to the Intel i7 950, which costs the same...

@DrZarkov

I would compare it if that Intel chip ran OS4 natively. I am talking about existing chips that run OS 4.

Otherwise you are comparing apples to oranges, eg. there is no point.

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@DrZarkov

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And now please compare it to the Intel i7 950, which costs the same...

i7 950 is probably 4 times faster (in sense Y=4*X) in integer operations and 3 times faster in FPU operations (single core performance). It is the same difference as between 68060 50 MHz and Pentium 200.

@TheDungeonDelver

It is unwise to spread this type of unconfirmed rumours.

Whatever people believe they have seen or not seen, I certainly do not want any disappointed users blaming A-EON and/or Hyperion Entertainment for speculation by third parties.

It should be pointed out that measures were taken to throw up "funny answers" when people tried to find out the identity of the CPU.

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>Whatever people believe they have seen or not seen, I certainly do not want any disappointed >users blaming A-EON and/or Hyperion Entertainment for speculation by third parties.

I hope this doesn´t mean, that the CPU of the X1000 is less powerful than the PA6T.

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It should be pointed out that measures were taken to throw up "funny answers" when people tried to find out the identity of the CPU.

And I thought Hyperion were short on manpower

What ever the CPU turns out to be I just hope to see OS4 make the most of the X1000. My bet is still on the PA6T though.

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I certainly do not want any disappointed users blaming A-EON and/or Hyperion Entertainment for speculation by third parties.

It would be great disappointment if the selected CPU is less powerful than PA6T...

@Hyperionmp

So you went through all the trouble to create some kind of pretend program that throws up fake PCI identifiers and hand coded in all of the pointers to the PA6T?

There's exactly two answers here: one is, yes, you did that. The other is, no, you didn't do that, and in fact you didn't think to do that to "hide" the CPU.

So, given that, either you're hiding the PA6T because that's not the final CPU and it is in fact only on these reference boards you have, and you won't use it on the end system, or for whatever reason, you're playing footsie with the community and trying to be clever and hiding the PA6T, except you got caught out.

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I'm an omelet guy myself.

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TheDungeonDelver wrote: So, given that, either you're hiding the PA6T because that's not the final CPU and it is in fact only on these reference boards you have, and you won't use it on the end system, or for whatever reason, you're playing footsie with the community and trying to be clever and hiding the PA6T, except you got caught out.

yeah, i think the 'jig is up' on this one. it could always be a successor device, but i doubt it.

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what are the implications?

one implication is that, whereas before i was not planning on raising the cash to buy this thing -- i am now.

-- eliyahu

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@TheDungeonDelver

We're simply not disclosing this information as this stage yet.

All in due time.

A working system was demonstrated running AmigaOS 4.1, the motherboard was shown, Varisys has 3 senior people in attendance to field questions etc.

All in good time please.

There will be plenty of more announcements to follow.

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NO! NOW NOW I WANT MY PANCAKES NOW PLLEEAAAAAAASE.

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

* wanders off *

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