Just curious when the Beta Testers will be able to speak freely?

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@TheKorn

Never... they will disappear one by one

Yeah Area51 is suddenly inhabitet

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@TheKorn

Should be about now (First X1000 shipped to ened users) or when OS 4.2 is out.

But FirstContact Buyers that paid the full price are not under NDA!

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@TheKorn

We can speak freely about anything that is out in the open on the X1000 FC system...

The other stuff stays a secret for now

@TheKorn

don't know but i thought that the first ones joined as betatesters (OS), but i am not sure.

anyway if thats the case then they are still under NDA, as for FC buyers, no idea.

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I would like one person here to give me a valid reason why on earth anyone testing this hobby OS would need an NDA? Please tell me because there is no industrial espionage and other tech companies could care less what Hyperion are doing with os 4.

@Cameraman

So would it be safe to assume you (and other beta testers) are testing aspects of AOS4.x beyond that which is included with 4.1 Update 5?

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@TheKorn

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TheKorn wrote: @Cameraman So would it be safe to assume you (and other beta testers) are testing aspects of AOS4.x beyond that which is included with 4.1 Update 5?

the x1000 betatesters are testing the x1000 plus the os4 aimed for it. and this is os4.2. now guess.
besides of that betatesters use *beta* software. and not the *released* one...

regards...
michael

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@TheKorn
Guess so, seems that some onboarddrivers for X1000 are missing / betastatus. So judging from german amiga boards where we have a few betatesters, they will carry on testing at least until onboard drivers are done.
Betatesters are allowed to show X1000 and OS 4.1 upd 5 FC (that's how the betatester in a german Amiga board titled the release which comes with X1000).
Logically they are allowed to show everything which is "out in the wild".

@realize
One reason for NDA is simply to cut down speculations. People on Amiga boards / foras tend to critisize everything which does not match their dreams. Remember, when the first video from Amigakit about X1000 booting time had been puplished ?

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@realize One reason for NDA is simply to cut down speculations. People on Amiga boards / foras tend to critisize everything which does not match their dreams. Remember, when the first video from Amigakit about X1000 booting time had been puplished ?

So in other words hide certain aspects of the system from the potential customer base?? Good strategy.

@realize

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So in other words hide certain aspects of the system from the potential customer base??

How is that even possible when there are X1000 users without NDA?

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@realize

customer base / customers buy a product ! Manufacturers believe that this product will satisfy the customer base and fullfill the customers dreams to a full or at least nearly full extense.... All aspects of the product should be clear and not hidden.

Betatesters did not have a product ! They had a item which might be released or might be polished. Now we seem to have a "polished Beta item", which qualifies for a product.

Let's see wether it is a polished product, or wether it might not be fully polished. I personally vote for the second option, therefor it might not be as polished yet as it could haven been / should have been. If so, we might even discuss if this was/is the right strategy from A-Eon.

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@gerograph

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One reason for NDA is simply to cut down speculations.

an equally good idea as planting a forest to hide a leaf.

@realize

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"I would like one person here to give me a valid reason why on earth anyone testing this hobby OS would need an NDA? Please tell me because there is no industrial espionage and other tech companies could care less what Hyperion are doing with os 4."


How do you know this ?


Regards, Michael

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Slightly OT but I hope someone from Hyperion will spill some beans here !

- If I buy X1000 now, will I be able to play HD clips soon?
- is there a plan to introduce Office alternative? (even if it is for kids)
- when will OS4 make use of the othe core?

Knowing the path forward for the platform will make purchasing decision easier...

Wajdy

@wajdy

Well 2 and 3 u can forget in immediate future. 1 is doable soonish

@realize

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I would like one person here to give me a valid reason why on earth anyone testing this hobby OS would need an NDA? Please tell me because there is no industrial espionage and other tech companies could care less what Hyperion are doing with os 4.

Oversimplified answer: because they got the board for quarter of price we gonna pay for the system

More realistic one: Because AmigaOS is getting adjusted to it slowly and Hyperion and A-EON don`t wont negative publicity of baby steps that must be taken

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@wajdy

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- If I buy X1000 now, will I be able to play HD clips soon? - is there a plan to introduce Office alternative? (even if it is for kids) - when will OS4 make use of the othe core?

a) More likely under PPC Linux that can use 4GB RAM+ and both cores then under OS4 (soon)

b) There is no official plan. There was a start of OpenOffice port but as we know it didn`t progress far. As soon as Timberwolf is done, that is a must!

c) As it is announced, with AmigaOS 4.2, presumably sometime this year

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@vox @realize thanks for answers

So no Office in the near future, maybe online alternatives will serve the purpose temporarily.

Wajdy