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Helgis A1 dead again?!
Posted on 1-Jun-2006 20:25:37
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It seems Helgis won't be back for a while again..
Not banned this time. It seems his latest overclocking atempt
failed yet again. I got a PM from Helgis where he explained how
this happened.


@Helgis

I'm sorry that you couldn't wait for the new boards/CPU's before trying
this Helgis. I guess you will be without OS4 for atleast a couple of months
now..

You know who's to blame I hope? Even if it seems to have been an accident
this time (according to your description of the events)..

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@Samwel
Thanks, my day now feels complete. I won't even give details on the various IRC discussions where Helgis went over and again about his 'expertise.'

Helgis- stop playing with things. I hope your A1 is repairable this time, and you've learned to leave it alone.

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@wegster

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Helgis- stop playing with things. I hope your A1 is repairable this time, and you've learned to leave it alone.


Agree 100%.

@Helgis



But I'm sorry for you as well, fortunately ACK is giving us new (and faster) CPU's, so a damaged one can be replaced.

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found a Goodbye letter

fortunately 4 hours later he is back on track


Some advice Helgis: Never ever poke with the PSU again, there is a difference between 110 and 220 Volts......


(The links are in Norwegian btw, there should be a Norwegian to English translator somewhere I recon )

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@Samwel

What goes around comes around. How many times did people tell him NOT to overclock? It seems someone did not learn his lesson. Should we care? Not really. Since he was warned several times not to do it.

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Some people have The Midas Touch, everything they touch turns to gold, unfortunately, Helgis is not one of them.


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@AmigaOneProductions

Would it be too early to make him immortal and call it "The Helgis Touch"?

@Helgis

It's not that MANY people told you NOT to do it MANY times, so ...

 
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Posted on 1-Jun-2006 21:50:36
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@tomazkid

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Some advice Helgis


Advice for Helgis? Did that ever work? I guess he'll be the naive poor little AW-mascot until the end of all things.
We are waiting for hardware while [beeeeep!!!] like him are deliberately killing it.

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@tomazkid

there should be a Norwegian to English translator somewhere I recon

Sure there is

But really, why bother.

Only 6 days left for his ban right ? I'm sure Helgis will provide us with enough info when the day comes..

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@wegster

and you've learned to leave it alone

When hell freezes over ?



Ok, let's try it one more time...

Helgis, an Amiga One is, as you are aware, similar to a X86 PC and yet it's not. However, that doesn't make it as "overclockable" as certain X86 mobo's (these days overclocking is a "cool" BIOS feature ) and even on those i sometimes fails. Guess what, those X86 mobos and CPU are easily replaced.. You should have known by now that getting an working A1 is difficult at best.

Doesn't matter wheter or not you did the overclocking yourself or some "expert friend" did. I doubt the "expert" is familiar with PPC CPU's and PPC mobos. The overclocking was done either by you or at your request, against the advice of people who do know the A1 hardware.

Can't say I'm sorry to hear you are A1less again.

See you in 6 days. If the A1 died because of some other thing then my apology's.

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Only 6 days left for his ban right ?


Yes, unfortunately only 6 days left in paradise.

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I'm sure Helgis will provide us with enough info when the day comes..


I'm afraid so. *sigh*

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@polka.

We survived worse.. Medhi Ali, Doomie, Atheist.. (Sorry Atheist, couldn't resist)

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@tomazkid

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tomazkid wrote:
found a Goodbye letter

fortunately 4 hours later he is back on track


Some advice Helgis: Never ever poke with the PSU again, there is a difference between 110 and 220 Volts......


(The links are in Norwegian btw, there should be a Norwegian to English translator somewhere I recon )


Ok, so a really bad translation, but this would seem Helgis continues to ignore all reality, and is 'hoping the Amy'05 will use a MegArray connector'??!!! WTF?

http://tinyurl.com/m6cas

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@wegster
Oh heh, and he has a pic of the 'cropped high end mobo,' not an Amy'05. More confusion.


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@wegster

I get a Too many translation requests by millions of users. Please click here or try again later. when trying to access your link.... It couldn't be.... Nah..

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Bedtime, to many stupid typos...

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@wegster

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Oh heh, and he has a pic of the 'cropped high end mobo,' not an Amy'05. More confusion.


Doesn't matter. Show him a pic of an x86-mainboard and tell him it's the new Amiga.
He will immediately start worshipping it.

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@polka.

Quote:

polka. wrote:
@wegster

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Oh heh, and he has a pic of the 'cropped high end mobo,' not an Amy'05. More confusion.


Doesn't matter. Show him a pic of an x86-mainboard and tell him it's the new Amiga.
He will immediately start worshipping it.


I would too, then I'd do cartwheels in the streets naked.

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Ths econd link, translated, sort of:
Quote:

Weekend Brings Her FRESHLY PPC-Amiga?


After Weekend have got assembled a bit and gotten back kampgløden her afresh against to refuse to drop out, appraiser now Weekend loud to procure a at these new, coming PPC-Amiga hardware. Now as Weekend A1G4XE more or less am dead, meditate facts in about no matter Weekend brings her a Amy'05, as this becomes facts lowest, new PPC-Amiga motherboard, and do be about be feel any technical better than existing A1...

Forth say Weekend that bought at Amy'05 as it comes edged, and at the same economize brass to a advanced High-End PPC-Amiga motherboard etterhvert ( fx a High-End Amy- system), sense of hearing awfully expediency edged...

Facts query now about Weekend able bail out contend he has at her 2 harddisks, that skjermkort and lydkort am intact and acting...

Let's hope that Amy'05 nevertheless shall avail MegArray 300 CPU- board, so that also CPU able upgrade, and that they nevertheless initially able consumes a cheap 800Mhz 750FX G3 CPU- abrupt, or merely a 1Ghz 7447 G4 CPU instead of ( as also am cheap)...

Add up to as this that Weekend no matter secede from nevertheless? Believable, but a pause at AmigaGuiden and AmiTopia becomes facts iallefall, be up to his new PPC-Amiga am gather in afresh. He shall enough come back return to AmigaWorld etterhvert, in an any additional debt admonish...

We able only ask that this am what Weekend stake on and off cross the fingers for facts best, and save our håp at that Weekend renounce shall joine us


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I would too, then I'd do cartwheels in the streets naked.


You DO realize, that you have now definitively shot down any chance of seeing OS4 on x86, right?

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@tomazkid
nicomen was nice enough to bear with us in irc and trasnlate, because err, YOU didn't!

'goodbye letter':
Quote:

Helgis is leaving Amiga???
The rumours were first heard at AW, but it's been tod that Helgis is planning to leave the Amiga community, AmigaGuiden AmigaWorld and AmiTopia.
Why and for how long? This entry was posted privately by him abd we've got the opportunity now to read his pravate entry.

"dear readers. It's with a big and heavy announcement that I hereby announce my leave from the Amiga community. First and foremost my leave from AmigaWorld, but also AmigaGuide, NAF and AmiTopia. This also means that I will retire from being a writer for AmigaGuiden and AmiTopia og retire. The decision has been hard for me, but I'll try to explain...

My AmigaOne G4-Xe is yet again more or less dead. I discovered this after trying to mount a new fan, the screen turned black. I couldn't see antyhing. I had a hunch that the CPU must have died, since I couldn't feel any heat from it when I turned on the computer, even with the fan on. In addition being frustrate I managed to fiddle with a red button on the back side of the cabinet (that you NEVER should touch), and then the PSU said POF!

There are several reasons to why I have taken the step I have done. Now that my A1 probably is dead (It wasn't the VCORE this time), I really would like a High End PP Amiga system like the PowerVixxen TL, which is supposedly very advanced. The price will be around $1000 and in Norwegian crowns that is 12.000 (note: it's more like 6-8.000 NOK), an that's JUST for the motherboard and probably the processor card! It sure is worth the money,

If Hyperion and others can prove that the future of the Amiga lays in PPC/Cell and similar future PPC concepts and PPC hardware will be as available, cheap and so forth as x86, then I support it and then I'll believe in it.

As it seems now, I basically think that AmigaOS 4 should've been ported to x86. Lots of PC users have said themselves willingly to use AmigaOS 4 native on x86, if it waas ported to x86. (note: gee, nice sentence) Why can't AmigaOS4 exist both for PPC and x86? It would've secure the future of Amiga as a desktop platform, and not just go to the embedded market, as it is called...I've jsut sent a mail to technologylicensing@amiga.com, so we''ll see what happens. If AmigaOS4 now will be licensed for porting to x86 too, and not just PPC.

Honestly, I'll probably get myself a High-End PPC-Amiga like PowerVixxen Tl, but I also think I will have a regular PC at home since most people have both Amiga and PC as I understand.
At elast that's what the reality is, and no matter how much I love Amiga I have to face reality too. It would've of course been even simpler if AmigaOS 4 also existed for 86. Would've saved lots of problems

Now I'll tell you the main reason why I'm pulling out. Firstly this has to do with AW. It didn't feel like a home for Amiga people, with the right Amiga spirit and fighthing spirit, like I used to have. Instead of getting lots of respect I've rather met a lot of opposition and attacks due to my enthuasiasm, and I have been labelled as an incompetent, an idiot and one who lives in his own world the last 6 months.
..because I was convinced that Amiga could become the popular platform it once was in the stat. A lot of people has questioned me being a writer for Amigaguiden and Amitopia and said that I don't have the technical experience regarding computers. I can tell you that I know alot about computer techonology and specially Ammiga.

If I didn't have that knowledge I would never have written like I have done, but since I'm been looked down on, I'll retire from AmigaWorld, and I don't know when or wether I'll come back.
It depends on a lot of things.

In addition, having health problems, I don't have any choce but to pull out of NAF, Amigaguiden and Amitopia too.

Yes, it's ery sad, but that's how it has turned out. It doesn't mean that I withdraw completely from Amiga. I will watch carefully in the background, but until frther notice I have to accept using a PC, and until I see that new Amiga hardware is easily available as regular PC hardware, then I will feel totally safe, because then I know that one can always get new Amiga hardware if something should happen...
Thanks for everything and all the support that has been given to me throughout my active time as a member, writer and Amiga supporter. I wish for a brighter future for Amiga. But currently it looks a bit dark...

If it's any comfort, who knows? Maybe I'll return with a PowerVixxen Tl-system? The product should then have a new name like ACKOne or something like that, when one speaks about a new Amiga system like that.

The name itself isn't that important as long as it follows the right Amiga spirit.
Finally I just want to thank for the hospitality and wish everyone good luck..."

This was everything Helgis wrote. We're of course very sad to lose such a beloved and active member like Helgis. We hope things will sort themselves out for him and that he returns to the Amiga. Maybe the sighting and news of these new High End PPC Amiga hardware will get Helgis to feel better. We hope and pray for the best for him....

Helgis' A1G4XE - 26.juli 2005 - 1.juni 2006 R.I.P?

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