Thatcher Dead...

Critics Celebrate...

The People Celebrate...


Before any one single person here say anything about their utter disgust at this post, then let me tell you...

I just like many others whom Thatcher did her damnedest to ruin our lives and that of our families during the 1980's have very good reasons to celebrate her passing...

That evil, nasty selfish bitter woman, sent members of my family, relatives and friends families to early graves during her vicious and hate filled reign in governance during the 1980's and all the way into the 90's

So I have every reason to celebrate the news of her death not only on my own behalf but more so on behalf of the loved ones and people I knew personally whom she sent to early graves and never got the chance to live out their days in luxury like she did after all the damage she caused to millions of people the length and breadth of this nation...

I've never actually celebrated the death of anyone in my entire life but this time it's personal and although it doesn't do anything to bring back those she was responsible for sending to their graves... boy does it feel good...


PS: If you didn't have to live through those times nor were personally affected by this womans reign of selfishness & hatred, then please don't comment on it based solely on things you have only read about her or those times...

If you weren't there or directly affected then you will simply never understand why I and millions of others feel this way...

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@Franko

From what I read she made two major mistakes; destroying the coal industry and the poll tax.

Speaking about coal, I personally think since we have 400 years worth of coal left in the ground here in the UK, we should have invested in cleaner coal burning technology and Thatcher should have pushed for the industry to be streamlined but not destroyed. We are suffering from increased energy bills because successive governments have tried to eliminate coal from our energy production. Thatcher used economics whereas Blair and Cameron use CO2 targets! Both arguments are flawed and if anything Thatchers restructuring of the economy made more sense than Cameron's 'flailing in the dark' cuts and flat-lining growth! The lady definitely had backbone and we knew where we stood with her. Cameron has no backbone, no morals and doesn't actually stand for anything!

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@Franko

I was in London W4 for Falklands, for William's birth, that era. I remember Thatcher, very much so.
I came back, but north to Cheshire, in 1996. I studied at John Moore's, I saw and heard from family and friends - former miners, former dock workers. A lot had changed.

I never will celebrate anyone's death, but I did celebrate when she left office. As I did for Reagan.

How Britain changed under Thatcher.

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(No, I didn't type that with a straight face.)

Made a wee short video just to mark the occasion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957seBBqy-A

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I never will celebrate anyone's death, but I did celebrate when she left office. As I did for Reagan. How Britain changed under Thatcher.

I am no Brit, but I do understand Thatcher destroyed one of the model welfare states by downgrading work unions, and overall result is rise in poverty and unemployment. In name of more liberal society, she has made less secure one in shortest.

Macka B - Get Rid of Maggie 1990

Also nice mention is 1:23 in Macka B - One forJah from 1986

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After getting off to a really bad start for me 2013 in the past 24 hours is suddenly looking like it may be a good year after all..

Maggie Thatcher Died...

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The Sun Is Shining Brightly And Every Last Trace Of Snow Is Gone (Even On The Bathgate Hills)...

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Found My Favourite Pen That Had been Lost For Nearly 2 years...

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That Big Nasty Cat From 2 Doors Down That Always Attacked Me Squirrels Just GOT Squidded By The Bin Lorry 35 Minutes Ago...

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Maggie Thatcher Died...

Oh yeah and did I mention Maggie Thatcher died...

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She did far more damage than trade unions and poll tax. She changed the British from an "us" society to a "me" society and I find it more than a little ironic that people are heralding her greatness for the economy while we are still trying to claw our way out of a recession.

Others express my opinion far better than I. I shall let them speak.














And the greatest typo in history...

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@Franko

The "Iron Lady"...rust in peace?

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@TheDaddy

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TheDaddy wrote: @Franko The "Iron Lady"...rust in peace?

Thought I'd give auld Maggie a more deserved send of befitting of her true legacy this time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwJp8gVeLxI

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@BigD

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Speaking about coal, I personally think since we have 400 years worth of coal left in the ground here in the UK, we should have invested in cleaner coal burning technology and Thatcher should have pushed for the industry to be streamlined but not destroyed. We are suffering from increased energy bills because successive governments have tried to eliminate coal from our energy production. Thatcher used economics whereas Blair and Cameron use CO2 targets! Both arguments are flawed and if anything Thatchers restructuring of the economy made more sense than Cameron's 'flailing in the dark' cuts and flat-lining growth! The lady definitely had backbone and we knew where we stood with her. Cameron has no backbone, no morals and doesn't actually stand for anything!

One of the main reasons we pay more for our energy is because the industry is profit driven. Weren't the utilities privatised under Thatcher's rule?

@Franko

After the winter of discontent some of the things that happened to the UK that were inevitable, unemployment for one. She indeed made some horrific mistakes but in some instances she inherited the chain of events that unravelled.

She was also in power a long time so culturally things were bound to change. Other countries emerged as manufacturers on a huge scale with a workforce on a fraction of British wages. Same goes for fuel and energy production. We became and still are a service and financial force to match countries many times the size of us.

That said taxation, privatising national interests and being steadfast despite huge public opinion (a la Tony Blair on Iraq), were some of the worst areas in which I agree she did let the country down.

I would say the right to buy council houses was a good scheme - it gave people otherwise set to die with nothing more than they started with a chance to build wealth. I don't agree with your note on the video you made where you say she right to buy stopped people getting council houses - the people who took up their right to buy were living in the council houses, and had to do for so many years to qualify, and the discount on the price got larger the longer you had inhabited the house.

I do believe the unions were too powerful. They should stand for rights but they shouldn't be able to bring a company (or a country) to it's knees if they don't get the demands met without compromise. It has happened on a smaller scale since with BA for example, where the cabin crew are paid more and have better privileges than other airlines, and BA needed to reduce them to bring them a little closer to their competition and the unions locked their heels in - BA are no longer the only UK airline and as such need to be competitive - if they had been able to keep up their bloody-mindedness we would have no BA and everyone (including the union members) would have lost out. If I was CEO of BA, I would have told them "I have a million pound house and money in the bank, you carry on, see who looses when all this comes crashing down". In the darkest days of that dispute, it was only BA's cash reserves that kept them from going bust.

#justsayin

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsq3H_6XuFA

"'cause people like you make me feel so old inside"

Great song...the best bit is at the end...

@Franko

Your videos are getting better and better...

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BigD wrote: Cameron has no backbone, no morals and doesn't actually stand for anything!

He does - gay marriage!

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Cameron...

"a bum-faced southern ponce with a tiny washer for a mouth" Armando Iannucci.

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@Franko

Sorry to pee on your parade, but the Iron Lady isn't going to burn in hell.

She'll have shut down and flogged off all the furnaces long before getting near any pitch forks.

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He does - gay marriage!

He doesn't even stand for that. George Osbourne whispered (wrongly) that it might be a vote winner and dispel the 'nasty party' tag and he thought, "that sounds like good PR" and he went along with it. He hasn't got any of the conviction that Margaret Thatcher had. Cameron is a one dimensional 'mood of the people' obsessed PR man who is completely out of his depth. He can give a speech but he can't lead his country for toffee.

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I didn't know much about politics in the 80s to give an informed decision back then but I was kind of in doctored into the idea that Margaret Thatcher wasn't the most loved person in the world and in the playground we would chant (with actions):

Here's Mrs Thatcher
Throw her up and catch her
Squishy squashy! Squishy squashy!
There's Mrs Thatcher.

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@Franko

Let me just register my utter disgust at this post, you don't celebrate someone's passing.
Sorry Franko, not good.

Rude!

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@Rudei

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Let me just register my utter disgust at this post, you don't celebrate someone's passing. Sorry Franko, not good.

So you had no pleasure in the farthest reaches of your mind when you heard Bin Laden was dead?

Context is everything. To a very large number of my countrymen, she was as evil and uncaring towards not just them, but their entire generation and ripped the fabric of British society so much that you can see the holes sanding on the moon. She only held this power because of a sequence of events globally that always timed with her elections pulling her back into the lead at critical moments and the careful manipulation of the voting system, she was never popular with the masses, the opposition was so fragmented as to practically give her total power and she used this to actually give herself total power by rewriting the law book.

No Rudei, you don't get to judge us. Not over this.

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Just because one (a political and public figure in this case so totally justified) is dead it doesn't mean her/his actions are cancelled by the death and can't be discussed as people did when she was alive.

The woman was an evil piece of work, a psychopath, just look at her face, look at her in the tank! It might (sexually?) arouse the tory/right wingers, it's disturbing I know but I've noticed how male right wingers quickly come out with phrases such as: "What a woman", "an incredible woman", "a great woman" and I've concluded that there is a connection here...sexual desire of being dominated by stronger women but this is stuff for another day...

Look at her giving the thumbs up after she ordered to kill the 323 people on the Belgrano ship, which was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone and was sailing away from the islands.

Contrary to what people say and to what the media are trying to tell us she was an anti feminist so because of her and her actions women will have no chance to become prime minister in this country ever again. This is also why she was so hard on everything and everyone; she had to prove she could be as strong if not stronger and madder than a man. Personal ambition pure and simple. In her reign the highest rate of unemployment and all she did was making sure her city boys could make millions, drink champagne every day and buy a Porsche a week.

She didn't mind being friends with dictator Pinochet, Ronald-moron-psycho Reagan, Jimmy Saville, hated the working class with a passion, hated the public services need to go on?

Let people be happy, the world is a better place.

Oh and Tony Blair can shut the f*** up, people will have more or less the same reaction when it's his turn, now Satan is waiting for Berlusconi and Rupert Murdoch...it's going to be busy down there...

Need more coal...

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