Hi all,

Although we didn't finish it before x-mas, mostly due to some personal issues, we can already provide you with a nice little teaser video of our upcoming game.

The video was recorded directly from our sam460ex / RadeonHD 4650 using an Elgato Game Capture device. No cutting or whatever, loading times / game speed is exactly as recorded.

Coming very soon

Have fun and happy x-mas!
The Cherry-Darling team

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@Daytona675x

Wow... This looks great, and the fact that you've pulled this off using HW compositing makes it 10 times more impressive. Wazp3D could really use a software depth buffer implementation to provide better Warp3D support for Radeon HD cards.

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@Daytona675x

It looks really nice. It's also great that you decided to take full advantage of the compositing system so users without Warp3D don't have to resort to Wazp3D.

Will there be a full screen mode for single player or network play, if network play is planned.

Also what's the music used in the video.

@Daytona675x
Nice . You are proving well Compositing can be used for 3D games

@Bszili
>Wazp3D could really use a software depth buffer implementation to provide better Warp3D support for Radeon HD cards.
Not so easy...
Drawing in a (soft) Zbuffer is not difficult
The real difficulty is to mix this soft outpout (that say draw this pixel yes/no) with the Composing engine
It may be be an alpha bitmap that "mask" the part of the triangle that must be drawn
But the real problem is how to store this "mask"
A simple mask for the whole screen is not enough as a simple compositing call may draw several triangles (masks) at the same place
So it will need to generate a mask per triangle drawn
... all that become overcomplicated and inefficient as masks should be in vram (so slow to draw in software)

To the end the better/simpler soultion may be a "painter algorithm" that store all the drawings for one "frame" then Z sort all the triangles then draw all
Of course will need a very big buffer to store all the drawings = triangles (and states for this triangle) ... not impossible ... but each year I hope that Mesa/gallium3D will be released ... so no need for me to code that

Alain Thellier - Wazp3D

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@Daytona675x

This is awesome. Have just shared it all over social media. Can't wait. Thanks for the unbelievable work, here.

@thellier

That really sounds complicated, I wonder how Daytona675x solved the problem by using a soft depth buffer then. I think z-sorting everything would be too slow with a large number of triangles.
I don't want to sound like Eeyore, but Gallium3D/Mesa was announced 4 years ago. The best we can do is working with what we have, i.e. HW compositioning.

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O.0 Holy smokes, ive said it before; you guys got the best presentation of your software/games on the Amiga platforms. Superslick graphics and games in general... AND a OUTSTANDING soundtrack!

(Yes, i like the wub wub wub dubstep).

Loved this ^^

@BSzili

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BSzili wrote: @thellier That really sounds complicated, I wonder how Daytona675x solved the problem by using a soft depth buffer then. I think z-sorting everything would be too slow with a large number of triangles.

I'd be interested to hear his solution too. After I created the Composite3DDemo, I thought of creating a variant of Warnock's algorithm for use as depth buffer. It works at the triangle level so it's suitable for use with CompositeTags(). It would also have an increasing overhead with more triangles, but it should be smaller than with z-sorting. However, it would be quite complex to program, which is why I never actually tried it.

You could get away without using a depth buffer for rendering terrain. Simply divide it into tiles, and render from far away to close. Each tile's triangles could easily be generated in far-to-close order on-the-fly. Add in backface culling and doing rough visibility checks on terrain tiles (i.e., don't render tiles that definitely aren't visible), and you should be able to render reasonably large and complex terrains.


@Daytona675x
Really nice work.

Hans

Last edited by Hans on 22-Dec-2014 at 09:21 PM.

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@Daytona675x

It seems awesome

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That is really good- thanks for sharing the video

I am looking forward to playing it.

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@Daytona675x

Well done!

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Nice work

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@Daytona675x

can i buy it from amistore when available?

@Daytona675x

Looks fantastic - great job!

Can't wait to try it out on the X1000! If you need someone to test it out let me know



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@Daytona675x



Looks really good!

Nice tune as well :P

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O.0 Holy smokes, ive said it before; you guys got the best presentation of your software/games on the Amiga platforms. Superslick graphics and games in general... AND a OUTSTANDING soundtrack! (Yes, i like the wub wub wub dubstep). Loved this ^^

Sounds more like D 'n B to me.

@Daytona675x

always top quality from you guys for our miggies...many thanks & Merry Christmas

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@Daytona675x

Looks great. Thanks.
I hope that your personal issues are not too serious.

Merry Christmas and Happy New year.

@Daytona675x

Nice! Like a 3D version of the Classic Amiga treasure 'Dogfight'!



Merry Christmas and keeeeeep coding!

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Thanks for the flowers
The video's awesome music was done by daXX, check out his soundcloud and don't forget to like it if you do.

@thellier
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You are proving well Compositing can be used for 3D games

Well, more or less in the same quality the good old blitter can be used for 3D games
Or: there are ways to workaround some (not all, but in this case enough of) those limitations thanks to the fast RadeonHD GPUs which allow to waste frame-time for such hacks.

@Hans
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I'd be interested to hear his solution too

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@Xmas87
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I hope that your personal issues are not too serious.

Actually it's not about me. Our graphics guy H2o has some trouble (nothing really serious like health issues or so, simply some time and nerv consuming stuff that's going to be worked out soon)

@BigD
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Like a 3D version of the Classic Amiga treasure 'Dogfight'!

You got it! Although we were mostly inspired by the C64 game ACE II

@all
Happy x-mas, and now back to work. We have to finish up a game

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