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TrevorDick 
No sound with Play CD on µA1-C -SOLVED
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 18:07:22
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Quick and probably stupid question! Does PlayCD audio work on µA1-C? I can play CD's normally using PlayCD on A1-XE but on my µA1-C all I get is the faintest of sounds coming out of the speakers, even on full volume. Both sytems are using the latest PR3 software and March firmware.

All other audio software I've tried seems to operate normally on the µA1 (& A1-XE). (eg AmigaAmp, SongPlayer etc) At first I thought it was something in my µA1 set-up but I got the chance to try PlayCD on another µA1 with the same results. Any ideas?

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Last edited by TrevorDick on 18-Dec-2005 at 11:38 PM.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 18:45:03
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@TrevorDick

Operates very good here on my µA1-C, right at this moment, I'm listening to
Fleetwood Mac's Behind the Mask.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 18:55:37
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What you have to do, is to connect a cable from the soundchip on your
MicroA1 to your DVD/CDROM. An analoge audio-cable...

Then go into Tools:PlayCD and go into Information with the right mouse-button,
and check the mark CD0. If your DVD is pointed to CD0:, then it should work.
If your DVD is at CD1:, then set it to CD1 in the Information...

It all worked for me, but because i have an A1G4XE with SB Live!

 
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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 18:59:10
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@TrevorDick

This doesn't answer your question, but here's my input:
I can play CDs with SongPlayer, but not with PlayCD on Micro A1-C.
Identical symptoms to yours - extremely faint audio.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:03:08
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@number6 and trevordick --

What are your AHI settings like? That might have something to do with it.

Also - make sure that your audio cable connecting the player and the motherboard didn't get knocked out. If it did, I wish you the best of luck -- reattaching cables in a micro motherboard requires a lot of patience and swearing.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
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@AmigaClyde

Thanks for the positive response.


@Helgis

I can play a CD using Songplayer. Does that use the same internal circuitry as PlayCD? I've checked inside my µA1 and the sound output on the CD drive appears to be connected to the Mobo OK?

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:05:14
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@TrevorDick

PlayCD works here. In ToolTypes, set DOSDEV=CD0 (no colon). Did you connect a cable from the CDROM audio out to JP20 (CD In) on the mb? The CDDB option doesn't work in the current PlayCD version.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:10:29
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I see, but i believe SongPlayer is using the AHI, while PlayCD plays
directly from a CDROM/DVD-ROM device. That's why i mentioned you have
to be sure that there is an audio-cable connected from your soundchip
on your MicroA1 (if there now is such a connector on the mobo) to your
DVD/CDROM, then going into Tools:PlayCD by picking Information with
the right mouse-button and check the mark CD0. If your device is
canalized to CD0, then use it. If not, then try CD1...

That's the things you have to do

EDIT: Forgot to mention. If you have a HIFI (i'm sure you have), then
be sure you have a two-to-one-way RCA-cable (Red and black being the
2-way on one end, and a black one on the other end). This last one
is to be connected to your MicroA1s' output (usually the light-green one),
while the other two shall be connected to the HIFI. Red is for Right,
Black for the Left. Hope you'll figure it out..

Good luck

Last edited by Helgis on 18-Dec-2005 at 07:15 PM.

 
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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
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@sundown

Quote:
PlayCD works here. In ToolTypes, set DOSDEV=CD0 (no colon)

That is already the default tooltype for PlayCD.
Note:As you know, all other audio functions well on my Micro. This is
confined to PlayCD.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:19:41
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@TrevorDick

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I can play a CD using Songplayer. Does that use the same internal circuitry as PlayCD? I've checked inside my µA1 and the sound output on the CD drive appears to be connected to the Mobo OK?

Songplayer spools the CD audio over the IDE interface, converting the CDDA track on the fly. On the other hand, PlayCD merely sets the CD drive to "play" which then outputs directly (via the audio cable) to the sound card.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:34:59
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@number6


Quote:
I can play CDs with SongPlayer, but not with PlayCD on Micro A1-C.
Identical symptoms to yours - extremely faint audio.

You described my symptons exactly! Misery likes company

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:36:06
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@amipal

Quote:
Songplayer spools the CD audio over the IDE interface, converting the CDDA track on the fly. On the other hand, PlayCD merely sets the CD drive to "play" which then outputs directly (via the audio cable) to the sound card.

Thanks for clearing that up.

TrevorDick

Last edited by TrevorDick on 20-Dec-2005 at 08:28 PM.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:36:27
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@TrevorDick & number6

Open Mixer & make sure External CD is set to max & not muted.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:56:32
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@TrevorDick

Quote:
Misery likes company

No Misery here. I, as you, can use the more powerful aspects of SongPlayer,
TuneNet, and AmigaAmp (w/equalizer) to play CDs.
Personally, I enjoy being able to adjust treble, bass, equalizer from the
comfort of my chair (and mouse).

@Sundown

Thanks for the advice, but I'm fine with my plethora of programs that already
play CDs. Perhaps I'll test this regardless, though.

Best Wishes,
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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C -- SOLVED?
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:57:39
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@sundown

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Open Mixer & make sure External CD is set to max & not muted.

Now I'm confused! I had already checked the mixer settings and the External CD was set to max and not muted. The mixer is envoked in my startup-sequence. However just to be sure I opened mixer and sure enough it was still set to max and not muted. Out of desperation I clicked on the mute button a couple of times and the barely auible CD which was playing (Supertramp anthology) bust into full volume

I've experienced sticky electromechanical switches but not software ones

Anyway it seems to be working now Has anyone got any ideas why this should happen?

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C -- SOLVED?
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 20:02:18
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@TrevorDick

Quote:
Has anyone got any ideas why this should happen?

Once before I experienced a program where the "graphical representation" of a
setting did not accurately reflect the "actual setting" until "toggled".
I'm not saying this is the situation here, but it -has- happened before.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C -- SOLVED?
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 20:11:23
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@number6

OK when I reboot the µA1 it reverts to the barely audible sound with PlayCD. If I go into mixer the Exernal CD vol is set to max and it's unmuted, Clicking on it twice (to mute and unmute) fixes the audio with PlayCD. Saving the unmuted setting seems to have no effect? It still reverts to ~nil audio after a reboot?

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C -- SOLVED?
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 20:17:41
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@TrevorDick

I've got to be honest with you here. I have not even installed "mixer" and I have
had no problems with audio other than the one we are currently discussing.
I -will- install this and let you know what I think.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C -- SOLVED?
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 20:41:20
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@TrevorDick

OK. I am officially a "newbie" as regards "mixer", so feel free to correct me.

(01)I unarc'd mixer.lha version 1.16 from OS4depot
(02)I double clicked to open it
(03)2nd slider said "External CD" so I raised it to "max" (top). Default was "off".
(04)Disabled "mute"
(05)Clicked on save to save preferences
Note:CMI8738 for Micro was apparently automagically detected and text showing.
(06)I copied the commodity (mixer&icon) into WBstartup along with the subdirectory
of images
(07)Cold boot of Micro
(08)Control panel showed up on boot, as I have not adjusted the tooltypes yet.
(09)Control panel showed "max" setting for "External CD" and "mute" disabled,
just as I had set it before saving preferences
(10)Inserted CD and started PlayCD

Note:Worked fine. @Sundown is absolutely correct IMO.

Edit(added):Added comments on disabling "mute" before saving preferences
I have also added the tooltype CX_POPUP=NO to disable the popup on boot
and the tooltype "DONOTWAIT" as reminded by @Curty

Best Wishes,
#6

Last edited by number6 on 18-Dec-2005 at 09:36 PM.
Last edited by number6 on 18-Dec-2005 at 09:11 PM.

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Re: No sound with Play CD on µA1-C -- SOLVED?
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@TrevorDick

Heh, spray a little WD40 on your screen.

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