Woted both PPC and x86.
Let them compete.

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@Fransexy
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Because i want to know the percentage

IMHO questions in this poll are not very good written coz
'i don´t care about the cpu' and 'PPC and X86' is nearly the same in this case...

@BigBentheAussie

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BigBentheAussie wrote: .... one can only hope that the hardware will improve when there's enough money from this first generation ............................ Personally, I'd like to see a pumped up system with multiple cell chips.

Developing such a beast (with case, and somewhat uptodate) would cost several millions, while the money to be earned with the current PPC-"Amigas" is surely way below 1 million (nad probraly in negative when you substract what the development of these costed).

Not a chance in life to get that back with "Amiga"-sales alone.

So your either stuck with stuff 3-10 years old tech, or AOS running of commodity-HW that just isn't x86.

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@ExiE

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ExiE wrote: @Fransexy Quote: Because i want to know the percentage IMHO questions in this poll are not very good written coz 'i don´t care about the cpu' and 'PPC and X86' is nearly the same in this case...

-First of all if i make a poll with only 2 options the thread will be locked (as it happened with my first attempt)

-Second "ppc and x86" and "i don´t care about the cpu" not are the same.the first implies that you want the two ports and the second options implies that you will be "happy" whatever cpu is chosen it will be PPC or x86 or other or all of them

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@Fransexy

Where are the Pancakes options ???

PPC all the way !

If you want AOS on x86, you have AROS and WinUAE !
Why not ask for Windows on AmigaOne or Mac Architecture ?

Jerry

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Well I'm "happy" with PPC for 4, but given the (future?) unavailabilty of PPC hardware, 4.5 the same as 4, but on i386, with Amiga OS5 on probably i386 only.

But I can't predict the future, at least no better than the people who chose PPC all those years ago. But I can't help think locked in Hardware is an idea who's time has gone.

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X86 makes the most sense plenty of cheaper faster and available hardware .And even apple have now dropped ppc besides cheaper hardware the more people that will take interest in the amiga platform .I have my receipt for my a1 and that cost £598 pound for just a motherboared and cpu i could have built myself a complete pc system for that .

Personally I don't care what CPU I'm using, all I need is good OS & software. And of course hardware should generally be good.. I wouldn't have any problems having a Macbook or Intel based iMac in the house. Or G5 PowerMac.

@Fransexy

I have andA1 and os4 pre3 and I voted "don't care what cpu they use
just as long as they get off life support and on it's feet. I wouldn't
be in least upset if AOS4 was ported to x86. It would mean most likey a
easily repairable system as far as spare hardware parts goes and maybe
cheaper. If it run like amigaos looks like amigaos has the feel of amigaos
the hardeware family doesn't matter. and at the moment the cpu on top is
the intl and all it's various clones. PPc chip designers were not as good at
business. They let their designs lag.



painter

I don't think it's realistic to have OS4 on two different CPU architectures, you would have no binary compatibility within the same OS, software developers would have to be developing software for 2 different types of CPUs at the same time with different endianness, some developers would end up supporting only one or the other and the users would suffer (just like OS4 vs. MorphOS). It would be a big mess and misery, nothing more. Do we need to split the community even more?

Sorry if this has been said before, I can't be a##ed to read the entire thread.

I voted PPC, as while x86 may be more widely used, it's very old by technology standards and really needs to be put to rest. PPC is more up-to-date, and ready for the future.

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@Fransexy

I voted for "I don't care" as long as I can have OS4, but I suppose what I realy want is unique & affordable Amiga hardware as an alternative to all the Windoze stuff which I am forced to use by default.

TrevorDick

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I voted PPC only, but in fact i still think a 68080 running around 1-2Ghz would be a lot better than anything else. But unfortunately it only exists in my dreams, so let's go with PPC.

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@RoqueFort

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I voted PPC, as while x86 may be more widely used, it's very old by technology standards and really needs to be put to rest. PPC is more up-to-date, and ready for the future.

What technical background do you have, that made you capable of reaching that conclusion?

Vidar

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COBRA wrote: Do we need to split the community even more?

The community was not split by having official Amiga software available to us all. The community was split by frustration.

It was frustration that created the clones.
It's frustration that is making us argue now.
It's frustration that makes bbrv get under our skin.
It's frustration that will make us argue in the future if we can't all buy a brand new Troika mark 3.

Distributing binaries for different CPUs works elsewhere and has not split communities.

Everyone who ever owned an A1200 needs access to an AmigaOS they can believe in. It is as simple and as complex as that.

Chris

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Distributing binaries for different CPUs works elsewhere and has not split communities.

Not quite. A lot of PPC Linux software lags behind x86 equivalents.

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@yoodoo2

My response to that would be:

That does not constitute a split.
Equally, a lot of software does not lag behind.
Linux doesn't have the history on PowerPC that Amiga does.
Compiling for both is (usually) easy and Amiga users would demand it.
Open-source software comes with source-code.
x86 would introduce more developers and more software end up on PowerPC.

Chris

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I think we need to stick to PPC for the moment (say 3-5 years or so?).

reasons:
1) a switch to x86 would create even more delays - let's get OS4 as it is out and about
2) any WarpOS software would be missing - even less software would work than we have now
3) 700+ files on OS4depot need to be rewritten
4) no x86 license for OS4 exists or is ever likely to (hello Amiga Inc)

A move to x86 needs proper long term planning and preparation. Evolve some new APIs first that developers will use (rather than hitting hardware/using old 3.x APIs) to ease transition to a dual-state etc.

And don't forget that Apple have been running internal x86 MacOS versions for donkeys years already. It wasn't just changing a compiler switch overnight.

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@clebin

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x86 would introduce more developers and more software end up on PowerPC.

But mostly ones used to fiddling with x86. How many of them would keep their code clean enough to compile straight to PPC?

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yoodoo2 wrote: @clebin Quote: x86 would introduce more developers and more software end up on PowerPC. But mostly ones used to fiddling with x86. How many of them would keep their code clean enough to compile straight to PPC?

I would say most of them. look how many people currently make sure their software works on both AmigaOS and MorphOS, which are two completely different OS's.

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