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Re: Macs growth spurt outpaces rest of market - Some food for thought
Posted on 6-Aug-2006 1:13:14
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1-way Dual Core IBM PowerPC 970 @2.7Ghz = 701 CB
1-way Dual Core AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ @2.2Ghz = 757 CB
1-way Dual core AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 @2.8Ghz = 879 CB
1-way Dual core Intel Core 2 Extreme @2.9Ghz = 943 CB



Neither Apple or IBM have never shipped a dual core machine at 2.7GHz.

There are dual *single* core 970FX machines at 2.7Ghz but they were replaced in October 2005.
The current Apple range uses the 970MP and a newer NB, clock for clock they can be quite a bit faster.

Also interesting that you picked one of the *very few* tests where the AMD processors get close to the Core 2 duo.

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Re: Macs growth spurt outpaces rest of market - Some food for thought
Posted on 6-Aug-2006 8:01:11
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@minator

At least a two socked based PowerPC 970 has added benefit of dual FSB unlike a true dual core PowerPC 970MP i.e. lower CB score due to shared FSB.

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Also interesting that you picked one of the *very few* tests where the AMD processors get close to the Core 2 duo.

Atleast I didn't post ScienceMark 2.0....

AMD and Intel (for Core 2 Extreme) CB benchmarks are in X64 mode (16 GPR, 16 SSEx FP) hence the selection i.e. extra ISA registers in X64 mode minimize the IA-32 front-end's performance impact for the current K8 core.

My post was not about AMD vs Intel....

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Re: Macs growth spurt outpaces rest of market - Some food for thought
Posted on 7-Aug-2006 19:07:07
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"Rumor has it that a quad core Conroe powered Pro Mac tower will be
announced soonish - perhaps at WWDC in August. The same is likely
later on with the new laptop Intel parts, so you may want to hold out for
new stuff (or the likely discounts on the earlier generation MacBooks
when the new ones hit the stores)"

So much for rumors - looks like the new "Mac Pro" towers will use
2 dual core Intel Xeons. So much for core 2 duo in pro macs - Apple
will use server chips in those beasts.

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Re: Macs growth spurt outpaces rest of market - Some food for thought
Posted on 7-Aug-2006 20:09:37
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Final nail in the coffin for PowerPC CPU desktop usage.

On a side note, I wish they'd change the damn casing. It's real ugly. Dell has nicer cases (PC & laptops). I look forward to DLing the keynote.

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Re: Macs growth spurt outpaces rest of market - Some food for thought
Posted on 7-Aug-2006 20:39:03
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The Leopard previews are available here:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/

User interfaces like that of Time Machine and Spaces are made easy through Core Animation. Now that the underpinnings of OS X appear to be complete, the "consumer" level of the OS seems ready to take off in a huge way.


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Re: Macs growth spurt outpaces rest of market - Some food for thought
Posted on 8-Aug-2006 0:43:19
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@Maczilla

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So much for rumors - looks like the new "Mac Pro" towers will use
2 dual core Intel Xeons. So much for core 2 duo in pro macs - Apple
will use server chips in those beasts.


Uh, yes --- but if you check, they are "Xeon 5100", which are Woodcrest, which are Core2 based....

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Re: Macs growth spurt outpaces rest of market - Some food for thought
Posted on 8-Aug-2006 20:14:31
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At least a two socked based PowerPC 970 has added benefit of dual FSB unlike a true dual core PowerPC 970MP i.e. lower CB score due to shared FSB.


The MP has bigger caches and doesn't need to send coherence traffic on the FSB, unless the application was solely bandwidth bound, that's going to make a difference.

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