@JurassicC

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Great communication, really...

@polka.

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In my opinion, it would have been much better if Ian would have posted some news on Amy by himself. That doesn't mean that such a person would constantly need to update and daily posts some news. The way Dennis did it is actually a good example how it could have been done _without_ a spokesperson

Please read my proposal in post #101 and response to a followup question in post #105
here.
Comments are always welcome.

#6

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@Lynx

They did have a website... they sold Amiga Ones IIRC and did some of the Italian shows demoing Micro A1's circa 2004.

Maybe the site is getting a face lift ready for the show in a few weeks.

@ikir do you plan to do a video webcast ?

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I'm tired of all this teasing and rubber nosing threads.
Simply, if you have something to show up, show it, otherwise if you can't for wathever reasons, then don't post even text on it here, that only will create anger and deceipt on several people that are harrassed of broken promises on the amiga community.

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@Lynx

Or we are even alone changing manteiner and web domain? You have not tried to ask to you as we are not never more Alternative Technology but Alternative Holding Group ...... baby? A.T. as you knew it more now do not exist is a pool of society.

Bye Bye Baby you are so beatiful.......

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@number6

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number6 wrote: Currently their is no such thing as an "integrated Amiga hardware department". There is also no one official spokesperson for the hardware developers as a group. Until such a time -may- come, you will have to accept the reality under which these folks must operate. #6

I thought that was your job!

@number6

I've read your proposal and I would also appreciate if the news section would be better structured (e.g. "hardware news" "software news" "events") to make it easier to look up information. (Btw, this also pertains to the search-functionality).
A newbie looking for info on the PV LT would need ages to find the right tidbits (e.g. specs) in old "news releases" that just contain IRC-logs.
A dedicated hardware section where the developers could update information or post status updates would be very welcome.

But - something I don't really understand is why you would want to remove the comment section from the news, because these have frequently lead to some fruitful exchange between the developer and potential customers. For example when something wasn't clear and the developer was asked to clarify several points. The "trolling" you were speaking of should be dealt with by moderation. Period. I don't see this as a reason for removing the comment section. Or are you indirectly saying that there is not enough moderation on the forums?
Going back to my Dennis-Minimig example, communication between him (as a developer) and forum members was _essential_ to build up trust and credibility. Anytime you go public with something (news, report, review, scientific article) you should be happy about the commendation, but you should also learn to live with any criticsm.

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Concerning the recent post of "the developer", I need to revise my previous statement. Some developers could definately need a spokesman.

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@Amiga-One

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Or we are even alone changing manteiner and web domain? You have not tried to ask to you as we are not never more Alternative Technology but Alternative Holding Group ...... baby? A.T. as you knew it more now do not exist is a pool of society. Bye Bye Baby you are so beatiful.......

Okay, all apologies...
But hey man, if you're really from that company, you'd better stop posting on public forums while boozed!
Well, anyway a bit of humour can't harm...Looking forward to see the new website...

@Lynx


OK no problem...!!

I only hope that Amiga Planet carry you all the good news that the Amiga community deserves and waits for from a lot. Now I pray you only of having patience and soon attending official news from the direct ones interested ...... a lot think that you will have some. And then if they have been therefore good to work two years in the shadow without that nobody noticed some….they do not have to then be a lot unprovided ...... or not?

We are in the same comunity, we love it and we works for it.

Bye

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@sgm

lot's of things going on in italy these days it seems! power devs on both the hw and the sw side!
GO ITALY!!!

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they do not have to then be a lot unprovided ...... or not?

Cheers to that!

Seriously, nice to see some above-average activity these days..

@JurassicC

None of the posts here by Amiga-One is labelled as "official" nor it endorsed by
any website or such (compare with most if not all posts from HJF).
The idea of posting the PCB picture (the one without the components) is Ikir's, not
theirs. So talking about bad communication is nonsense, as THEY did NOT communicate ANYTHING other
then vaguely pointing to the italian fair, where something will be shown.

If I was in ... most people's shoes, I would mark this as a (possibly tasty) rumor, nothing more.

I'm not, so I know what's true and what's not. As such, it makes me a bit mad to see people
critising something (PR commnication) where there is none, and mistaking one person good in faith
posting some tasty rumor (Ikir) as official PR.

'nuff said.

@AV

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Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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AV wrote: @JurassicC None of the posts here by Amiga-One is labelled as "official" nor it endorsed by any website or such (compare with most if not all posts from HJF). The idea of posting the PCB picture (the one without the components) is Ikir's, not theirs. So talking about bad communication is nonsense, as THEY did NOT communicate ANYTHING other then vaguely pointing to the italian fair, where something will be shown. If I was in ... most people's shoes, I would mark this as a (possibly tasty) rumor, nothing more. I'm not, so I know what's true and what's not. As such, it makes me a bit mad to see people critising something (PR commnication) where there is none, and mistaking one person good in faith posting some tasty rumor (Ikir) as official PR. 'nuff said.

To be honest i think you have directed your post at the wrong person.

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But as you directed it at me. Your right there is nothing to say that they are offical posts.
I don't think this is a rumour. I believe the hardware will be made and there will be something to show. I don't disagree with ikir has done. He is just stiring up interest for his show... Best of luck hope it is a huge success.

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So another overpriced and underpowered hard for amiga systems is on the way?

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@_ThEcRoW

How would you know? you haven't heard about price/specs yet.Just wait and see.Then judge if it suits your needs, if not, don't buy one.It's that easy, really.
Note however that i'm not banning you from having your own point of view regarding the board price/performance specs, but then, for you being able to criticise it, the both the board and the price has to be public,until then, i see no point in criticising it.

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@_ThEcRoW

Whatever it is going to be, it will always be better than nothing...

And I am sure it will be a 4 star product just like the updated Italy logo

4 stars

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I'm more than confident that this project will fit plenty of user's needs.

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@Ami603

No offence but

I'm more than confident that this project will fit plenty of user's needs.

Can't you see that stating this is exactly what is bothering people ? The "trust me I know" kind of remarks.

Heard and read since 2000 from people who were publically known by name back then so why should we jump with joy now ?

Look, it's not ment to discourage anybody involved, it's just that this feels like rubbing salt in open wounds. To long a time, to many times heard.

IMHO Ikir did something he thought was fun to do for sure, and I'm glad to see this thread didnt go so bad as I feared but either spill all the beans now or let it rest till the show and no more "I know" messages witch just make it harder to believe and trust.

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absolutely nothing about new hardware for OS4!

I'll be watching what comes out of that show with interest though. Unfortunately I won't be able to attend myself so I'll be relying on whatever reviews/photos/videos others post.

Hans

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