@ikir

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Afxgroup and other users already give informations about Moana....

They did? Sorry must have missed that. I mean, is there any information except for some carrot-dangling hint!hint! posts on Italian webforums?
If you have such information, why don't you post _that_ instead of doing these childish games?
It would be of much more value to anybody (esp. the large crowd of English-speaking Amigans!) than some trivial PCB-detail.

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@Esquilax

One month since Pianeta Amiga.

They aren't real clues because you can't know the answer

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@polka.

For the same reason because informations weren't made public many months ago.

For the same reason because people get angry instead of joking in this thread.

About Moana....
I'm referring to afxgroup post here on AW.net not on iksnet.it

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@ikir

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But you rant about silence before... OMG! You always lose with Amiga comunity

I've never ranted about 'silence'. My position on this remains the same as it's always been -- teasers, 'sneak-peeks' and the like are silly and counter-productive. Anyone working on new OS4 hardware should either lay out all the details in public, or just shut the heck up until they have something to ship.

The majority of the Amiga community has been through far too many false dawns to be anything but utterly sceptical about new hardware. Yet all of the potential hardware providers seem to go out of their way to make sure they have zero credibility. Cryptic little cropped pictures of anonymous PCBs, DPaint cricuit diagrams, constantly changing specs, missed deadlines for providing information, silences over licencing questions, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

Stunts like this one just throw petrol on an already raging fire.

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@Samwel

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Ran great?! Are you sure about that? My A4000 - CS060 MK3 - CVPPC was/is sluggish, very sluggish even, compared to OS4 *AND* my Windows setup.

It's pretty hard to make such a machine run slow, how did you achieve it? Do you use 32bit screenmodes with 2048x2048 MUI textures? If you don't like that "crappy" equipment I can buy it from you if you want. I would be specially interested in the MK3 and the CVPPC.

My A4000+Prometheus runs OS4 nicely. I still have to try MOS on it (only saw it on a friend's A4000+GREX and ran quite smoothly too).

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IMO old Amigas suck if you don't run hardware banging stuff like demos & games. They're just too slow.

IMO new fake amigas suck even more than original ones because these don't allow you to run 100% of old stuff. With my A4000 I can run most of MorphOS apps, most of OS4 apps, and all the AGA stuff.

BTW, barracuda UW hds on CSPPC are probably working faster than IDE drives on your MicroA1 and with zero corruption. I have no heat problems and I bet my machine is more stable than many A1s.

And you know what? If my motherboard burns I can replace it almost inmediatly. A quick eBay search and I can find a replacement motherboard. Try to do that with an A1

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@DrBombcrater

AGAIN..... they did. These project starts many months ago without relasing informations, NOW one month before Pianeta Amiga you can get these 'sneak-peeks'.

If you aren't interested don't read.

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@ikir

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For the same reason because people get angry instead of joking in this thread.

I think people would "get angry" a lot less if some _substantial information_ was posted instead of playing some childish games.

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I'm referring to afxgroup post here on AW.net not on iksnet.it

So could you please give me a link to this post? Is there any _real information_ in it at all, or is it just the usual "Something exciting is soon to arrive! It will be called [fill in girl's name]!!! Please wait patiently!"-crap?

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@Crumb

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IMO new fake amigas suck

Besides its problems my AmigaOne let me enjoy amiga again. I'm very happy i bought one already years ago.

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@ikir

Hmm its a bit hard with such small pictures but:



This looks a lot like an ethernet connector with build in LED's, the only thing is its on the very edge of the card so I would doubt its a motherboard...
So I think its a Zorro 3 multifunction card with ethernet. (Hence the connector being so low)
Am I right?

Oh and with RoSH and Lead Free on it I would say its German. (They are anal about that at the moment)

@Oli_hd

Not german. And it is a motherboard

Next clue will be bigger.

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@AV

Well, considering the fact that I actually had one in MY hands, I can say that:

A) it must be real or
B) I was drunk

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@Oli_hd

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Oh and with RoSH and Lead Free on it I would say its German. (They are anal about that at the moment)

...and following this logic, if they spell RoHS incorrectly they must be from the UK?

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@polka.

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..and following this logic, if they spell RoHS incorrectly they must be from the UK?

LOL, err yeah... opps
Here we call it the "restriction of the use of substances that are hazardous"

well at least its an ethernet connector...
but wtf, if the connector is right at the edge of the board it means its not ATX or any such standard.

PS: in the IRC we recon its the JahcOne "with WookieChat accelerated gfx drivers"

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@Oli_hd

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but wtf, if the connector is right at the edge of the board it means its not ATX or any such standard.

Amiga doesn't need standards. We need to have custom hardware. If you would design a mainboard in a standard like ATX, many would scream that they "need a custom boing-ball case" for it or that it "must fit into the Amiga-fantasy case" or whatever. Just look at that funny mainboard from Beijing UD Tech that Troika was planning to license. In a STB-case, you can't even fit a proper GFX-card to it. But luckily, the board has useless Mini-PCI and smartcard connectors

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@ikir
Would you please give us a link to the "interesting" afxgroup post as Polka asked, I don't think I have seen it either...

@polka.

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Amiga doesn't need standards. We need to have custom hardware. If you would design a mainboard in a standard like ATX, many would scream that they "need a custom boing-ball case" for it or that it "must fit into the Amiga-fantasy case" or whatever

Im totally with you on that, although I want it in the Amiga-Fantasy case, just with ports layed out like an A1200.

Infact a black A1200 case would be great... its just making the case thats the hard thing.

@DrBombcrater

You are right: teasing like this may be OK in an italian forum, with a reduced group of members and not in a bigger international forum like AW.net.
The hw project ikir is showing has been developed in the last 2 years or so (info taken in iksnet.it).
The people behind it stated (again in iksnet.it) that they have been working under the radar for quite some time to avoid issues like ACK had. Now that they are slooowwllllyyyy releasing some info is a sign that they have something to ship (or so it looks to me).
Anyway, there are high chances that AmigaOS4-compatible hardware ready to ship will be unveiled at Pianeta Amiga this September, so please stay tuned.

My 2 cents,
Stefano.

PS. No, I am not an insider.

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@ikir

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ikir wrote: @Herewegoagain You all rant about hardware pictures.... Now you can see a real photo of new hardware. It is not intended to be an agony bacause "they" didn't announced the board 10 months ago. Do you like more the other 100 threads "port to x86" or "wee need hardware"?

To start with, I couldn't care less about photos, and you'll never hear me rant about companies not showing pictures (unless self imposed deadlines are not met). Sure, it would be fun to see a picture of a full prototype board (not 1"X1" cropped area) but even seeing a photo is nothing if there is no informataion about expected availability, pricing, etc.

Had you simply posted that there will be some new hardware which will be shown at Pianetta in one month, and that more info would be revealed during this month, I think people would have taken the post differently. We've had enough of easter egg hunts. Most people who are left here are tired of games and guessing. Is it so hard to understand that people just want some info on when we can expect to see the hardware? That would be worth more than 10,000 picture clippings.

@Herewegoagain

Couldn't have said better myself

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