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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 9-Nov-2006 23:40:49
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| @COBRA Not fond of the poll options. What about 'lump sum bounty/fee'? MOS (AND OS4 users..) have contributed a few thousand dollars to the existing bounty, and I'd be willing to put $100 or more into such a bounty, after which it would be _free_ to (other) OS4 users. The the question is whether or not a build is made available, or if open source is even an option. I'd be ok with either.
Another option is a limited use without registration/purchase. If for example, it only allowed 2-3 tabs, it would still be usable for some/all users to a degree, but many would register it to unlock the extra features.
I think IB is an example of being hugely overpriced. I understand people would like to make some $ off their work, but for what it is, and how slow updates come along for it, the price is quite high. Yes, I've purchased it, but don't get a whole lot of warm and fuzzies at that price.
So, I'd say up to 40 Euros, IF it's a buy per copy only situation, but I'd prefer a different resolution if possible.
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 9-Nov-2006 23:42:41
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200¤???
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 9-Nov-2006 23:51:44
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| I guess 50¤ would be the max I'd pay for a browser.
Donating is another matter, as donating for a free browser for all users.
I just love the UI/GUI of IBrowse if it only had the capabilities of KHTML. It will probably take Marcik a year or so to get Sputnik to the state IBrowse is today. When OS4 gets MUI4 then a port should be very straight forward. What about AWeb then? Wasn't they supposed to use the KHTML source aswell?
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 0:37:49
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 1:25:24
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| @wegster, Troels
Same here, I would donate to a bounty in order to make it free.
Alternatives: people contribute to that bounty with the sum they want, ranging from a minimum amount (15¤?) to whatever they want, receiving a copy of Sputnik in return, and when a certain amount is reached (3000¤?), the program is freed.
I would happily donate 30¤ to that bounty.
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 1:36:35
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3000¤ for AOS4, 3000¤ for MorphOS, another 3000¤ for AROS and finally 3000¤ for 3.*... we could have a winner here! _________________ Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home. The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga |
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 2:12:54
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| I asked in another thread what Marcik would need to do an OS4 version. I think its clear that his lack of response and mention of "I don't know what I need" is proof enough that he has no real interest.
Developers: We need a modern browser. Badly. My call to the community is again to suspend all further projects until we have a modern browser. I can't code, but if there is ANYTHING, however menial, I can do? I will help.
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 2:24:28
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If Sputnik has the same level of functionality as Konqueror, I would gladly pay 20 Euros for it. More if it was better than Konqueror, or if it was particularly well integrated into AmigaOS (eg putting your prefs somewhere into ENV: instead of DH0:.prefs, assigning icons to downloaded web pages, etc - more than a plain port)
I agree that modern OSs should come with web browsers, but then we should put pressure on Hyperion to license Sputnik like they have Petunia, AHI, etc. I'm a firm believer in paying the guy who does the work.
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 2:41:34
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It seems that despite Marcik doesn't know quite what he needs to do an OS4 version that he might be closer to doing it then any other, just look on how long we have been without one... _________________ Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home. The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga |
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 11:15:02
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And where is the "more than EU80" button?
Suppose I would be so keen to encourage a programmer to produce stuff for OS4 that I would pay 100 or even 200 Euro ?
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I wanted to add one but the poll system here only allows up to 7 options. It'd be nice if it would allow a bit more, say 9.Last edited by COBRA on 10-Nov-2006 at 11:17 AM.
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 11:58:56
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As i said in the other thread - i don't want to sell it (spending a few weeks working on piracy protection that'll be broken anyway and result in illegal copies floating around is stupid imo). Bounty with conditions like os4-machine is needed to start work, $x on bounty is required for release and it'll include support/bugfixing/new version for y months, etc, would be much easier for everyone and both sides will be happy then. |
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 11:59:15
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Not fond of the poll options. What about 'lump sum bounty/fee'? MOS (AND OS4 users..) have contributed a few thousand dollars to the existing bounty, and I'd be willing to put $100 or more into such a bounty, after which it would be _free_ to (other) OS4 users. The the question is whether or not a build is made available, or if open source is even an option. I'd be ok with either.
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I made this poll because I would like marcik to see that an OS4 port is worth thinking about. He made it quite clear though that right now he's doing only MOS, thus a bounty would make no sense currently IMHO, he doesn't even have an OS4 machine. Also don't forget that it requires MUI4 which does not exist on OS4 yet, so you couldn't even start a port before we have MUI4-OS4. |
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 12:11:01
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I'm pretty sure that if you're serious about a port an OS4 machine can be arranged for you, although IIRC you said that MUI4 for OS4 must exist first. Piracy in the OS4 community is virtually nonexistant, at least from my experience (I develop shareware for OS4), but that's your choice. |
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 12:22:16
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I asked in another thread what Marcik would need to do an OS4 version. I think its clear that his lack of response and mention of "I don't know what I need" is proof enough that he has no real interest. |
I wouldn't mind doing os4 version. I didn't responsed just because i didn't thought about it yet. So i don't want to declare something what can change later (it happend with mos bounty, first changing codebase, then changing rules (although some pointed me that rules are still valid as bsd doesn't mean that code is released )). So i have to think realy hard about it unless i'll get ealier some offer that will satisfy me. But as i prefer thinking on code now then no rules will be announced until Sputnik is in a ready for daily browsing state. |
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 12:31:20
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I'm pretty sure that if you're serious about a port an OS4 machine can be arranged for you, although IIRC you said that MUI4 for OS4 must exist first. |
Making it work on MUI3.x should be possible (although that's just a wild guess as i didn't investigated it) but MUI4 would make it a lot easier for sure. |
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 14:51:09
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My apologies. When Sam is available I would be more than happy to donate in order to get you a board, OS4 and also be compensated for your time. _________________ ...wait... what? |
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 17:34:08
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Ferry wrote: @wegster, Troels
Same here, I would donate to a bounty in order to make it free.
Alternatives: people contribute to that bounty with the sum they want, ranging from a minimum amount (15¤?) to whatever they want, receiving a copy of Sputnik in return, and when a certain amount is reached (3000¤?), the program is freed.
I would happily donate 30¤ to that bounty.
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I like this idea too..and it seems to jive with Marcik's comment on this page as well. perhaps the first part (N amount) could be awarded prior to release for the purchase of an OS4 capable system, when one becomes available..?
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 20:09:18
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Didn't bother with your poll. Cash flow to MZbounty is the answer! _________________
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 21:10:35
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Re: [Poll] Sputnik OS4 version Posted on 10-Nov-2006 21:17:27
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Didn't bother with your poll. Cash flow to MZbounty is the answer! |
Sadly, it's not. marcik has no way of determining what portion of that $ is from MOS users vs OS4 users. I wouldn't donate to it until this is clarified, although I'd like to be able to encourage donations..
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