@Hans
I have an unexpected announcement from a source which may surprise you:
http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/138809.shtml

Excerpt:
"According to iksnet.it, the Moana board of the Italians is running and the Frieden's have already ported OS4 to it! "

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@jorkany

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jorkany wrote: @Hans I have an unexpected announcement from a source which may surprise you: http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/138809.shtml Excerpt: "According to iksnet.it, the Moana board of the Italians is running and the Frieden's have already ported OS4 to it! "

Yes that is a surprising source. Could someone that can read Italian please look it up on iksnet.it and give the rest of us an English translation? If this is true then that is promising. However, what are the Moana specs? I can only find an interview stating that it will be a "desktop solution" and will be higher end compared to Sam.

Hans

EDIT: I see that more info has been posted on moobunny. Sounds interesting. Hopefully someone developing Moana will give us an official announcement in the near future.

Last edited by Hans on 26-Jan-2007 at 09:04 PM.

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@Hans
Moana is being developed by ACube Systems and is one of their many projects.

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@jorkany

I can comment because I read it first on the italian portal.
The comment you quote here and the one that follows on Moo are either not accurate and non professional. This guy should simply shut up instead of creating false hopes

Last edited by elwood on 26-Jan-2007 at 09:19 PM.

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@ssolie

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ssolie wrote: @Hans Moana is being developed by ACube Systems and is one of their many projects.

But it's not listed on their website yet whereas Sam is.

Hans

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@Hans
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But it's not listed on their website yet whereas Sam is.

Which is why I'm telling you. Want to know more about it then email ACube Systems and ask. The last thing you want to do is trust anything written in green on a black background and especially anybody referencing such a place.

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@jorkany

Moobunny guys has completely misunderstood:
on iksnet, there's nothing about os4 port to moana.

Showman
(from italy)

@Moxee

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I like ASS

You are just setting yourself up to be quoted out of context :)

@elwood

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elwood wrote: @jorkany I can comment because I read it first on the italian portal. The comment you quote here and the one that follows on Moo are either not accurate and non professional. This guy should simply shut up instead of creating false hopes

How about a summary of:
http://www.ikirsector.it/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7148&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
so we don't have to get things messed up via babblefish.

Has a port been done on new hardware? Did the Friedens (twins) help?
Has the new hardware obtained a license?

Thanks

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I am sure they like to quote Moxee on Amigans.net ... to prove how deep moderation is fallen inhere.

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elwood:
If you think they are creating false hopes, I suggest you read
Guruman's post.

"Link:
http://www.ikirsector.it/forum/viewtopic.php?p=95019&highlight=#95019

The discussion was about BBRV posts on aw.net and AOS4 on Efika, but from this NTN (Andrea Vallinotto) post the topic changed to Moana.
Translation:
"Just from a theorical point of view, running OS4 on the Efika is IMPOSSIBLE without recompiling the source code.
I know how much it took to run ExecSG on Moana, and I had the sources and help from the two clones."

Italian users were also asked not to spread the news, but since it already hit the Moo, I guess it is fair to translate it to the non italian speaking readers...

Kind regards,
Andrea "

Click-eli-Click!

Last edited by ironfist on 27-Jan-2007 at 09:35 AM.

@ironfist

Last time I checked Andrea V. and the Friedens were both OS4 developers.
The Friedens stated that they OWN ExecSG.

And since when porting ExecSG with the help of the Friedens (and NOT OS4... you can check the original post to see that all it was about was only ExecSG), is piracy?

Furthermore Andrea V. is not a representative of ACube, so he can't speak for or in behalf of ACube.

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@ironfist

Before anyone starts up any conspiracy theory, I shall point out that it was a proof of concept, done many months ago, that didn't had any further development.

Just as Exec was ported to the "Mystery device", it was ported to this platform.

Did the "Mystery device" materialize ? No.

So there's not much fuss to make out of this.

@Lecta

The Friedens claim they own ExecSG but AInc has a different view besides isn't the use of sources mentioned? Has the ownership question been settled then? I have not heard that AInc has dropped the requirements of gross sales figures so I gather ACube is a rather large firm if they are contemplating a license request. I hope that AInc has given permission for the porting as I would not want to see anything get in the way of new hardware getting a license. It must make the developers excited to see the possibility of some money about to come their way from ACube.

@Samio
Thanks for clairifing the the "bury everthing" part. I didn't want you be part of a coverup and loose all of your credability. Why not put this news on the front page of every Amiga news forum? It is the best news to hit in a long time. Hopefully a new licensed PPC platform with OS4 will be shipping to my front door soon.

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AV wrote: @ironfist Before anyone starts up any conspiracy theory, I shall point out that it was a proof of concept, done many months ago, that didn't had any further development. Just as Exec was ported to the "Mystery device", it was ported to this platform. Did the "Mystery device" materialize ? No. So there's not much fuss to make out of this.

Say it ain't so! Not more disappointment. At least witha "conspiracy" something is being done to end tha malaize.

@elwood

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elwood wrote: @jorkany I can comment because I read it first on the italian portal. The comment you quote here and the one that follows on Moo are either not accurate and non professional. This guy should simply shut up instead of creating false hopes

Instead of being so critical how about a proper translation that is accurate and professionl. Either you should step up or shut up! False hopes seem to all there has been for awhile.

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stew wrote: @AV Quote: AV wrote: @ironfist Before anyone starts up any conspiracy theory, I shall point out that it was a proof of concept, done many months ago, that didn't had any further development. Just as Exec was ported to the "Mystery device", it was ported to this platform. Did the "Mystery device" materialize ? No. So there's not much fuss to make out of this. Say it ain't so! Not more disappointment. At least witha "conspiracy" something is being done to end tha malaize.

I wouldn't call it a disappointment. An official announcement for the Moana board hasn't even been given yet. This suggests that, whatever it is, ExecSG has been successfully run on it. This should give the developers confidence that they really can make this happen. My guess is that Sam440 will be released first, and then Moana announcements will come next. I hope that they really do manage to get Sam done Q1 of this year as they said they would.

What surprises me is that ExecSG needed to be recompiled. I thought that with the exception of using altivec, PowerPC code should run on all PowerPC variants. Or at least, PowerPC code for older processors should run on the newer ones without a problem.

Hans

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@ironfist

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I had the sources and help from the two clones.

My god, help from the two clones!

@AV

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AV wrote: @ironfist Before anyone starts up any conspiracy theory, I shall point out that it was a proof of concept, done many months ago, that didn't had any further development. Just as Exec was ported to the "Mystery device", it was ported to this platform. Did the "Mystery device" materialize ? No. So there's not much fuss to make out of this.

Wasn´t the Mistery device a IBM PDA reference design? Because OS4 and not only ExecNG was ported to the IBM PDA

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@Hans

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What surprises me is that ExecSG needed to be recompiled. I thought that with the exception of using altivec, PowerPC code should run on all PowerPC variants. Or at least, PowerPC code for older processors should run on the newer ones without a problem.

User level code, ie all apps, most os components etc. yes. But things like cache controllers, mmu etc. are different. These parts have to be ported. Not a huge task, but it still has to be done.

rgds,
Stefan