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I won't buy computer without modern browser and "all world" compatible office suite...

OS4.1 already *has* a "modern browser" - it's called OWB, which is based upon the WebKit engine (that even Apple & Google use). Which includes working Javascript support.

It may not have an "office suite", but as most people just want Word, a "compatible wordprocessor" is probably the same in most people's minds. And for that there is already a port of Abiword:
http://amigans.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=180
Biggest point: "Outstanding file import and export, with support for MS Word, WordPerfect, OpenOffice, OpenDocument and more"

(side note: Neither porting effort it yet complete, but I believe they are usable, and things can only improve.)

As for Java (not Javascript), that is pretty much never going to happen, but I honestly can't think of any common Windows or Linux app that requires it. Certainly no web pages.

As for Flash, well, that may happen eventually, but is it really essential that you get bombarded animated adverts?

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As for Java (not Javascript), that is pretty much never going to happen, but I honestly can't think of any common Windows or Linux app that requires it. Certainly no web pages.

Open Office comes to mind....


Also, you did forget PointRider.

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OpenOffice doesn't *require* Java AFAIK, except for a few crappy Wizards (happy to be proved wrong though).

Oh yeah, PointRider is a good way to view PowerPoint presentations.

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As for Java (not Javascript), that is pretty much never going to happen, but I honestly can't think of any common Windows or Linux app that requires it. Certainly no web pages.

Eclipse ?

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As for Flash, well, that may happen eventually, but is it really essential that you get bombarded animated adverts?

If that's really what you think you should look again... Flash/Flex equips more that 98% of all computers browsing the web, and it's used in a lot of applications today... And not only in ads, far from it...

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@thread

PLEASE... can we stay on topic?
Start another thread if you want to discuss ANYTHING other than this, ok?

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@tomazkid

Yes, you are right, I simply forgot that one can run linux on that board also....
That is problem solving situation....

Best of both worlds on one board. But tell me how fast is Ubuntu on that board?

This does not means that I dont think that FF and OO are needed on OS4. If BEOS can have FF then why AOS should not.

And, regarding other posts, how developer can know where to act, if people does not give them a hint?


Sorry, just this one post then I will stick to the subject.

@amigappc

we don't have the developer resources needed, or the expertise yet, but I think some program will come over time.

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THIS... is on TOPIC?
Please... start another thread if you want to rehash this stuff... ok?

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I sorry... what can I do make it right again

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@thread

OK... I am copying over the latest info we have from the h/w sticky thread to make it easier to focus.
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Maker: Troika

No official license for OS4

Board: Amy05/Amy0x/Prometheus
Website: http://www.troikang.com/contact.html

The *Amy 05 is a flex ATX form factor board that moves away from legacy I/O making a complete move to USB. Comparison chart.

- Processor: IBM PPC 750GL 800Mhz. processor with Active (fan) cooling. Soldered directly to motherboard.
- Northbridge: Tundra Semiconductor TSI107 Northbridge device. This provides access to SDRAM memory and the PCI bus amongst other things.
- Southbridge: AMD Geode cs5536 Companion device.
- Ethernet: RTL8110 Gb/100/10 Ethernet controller.
- USB 2.0: 5 x High Speed USB 2.0 ports: 3 rear connectors, 2 front connectors.
- ATA 100/133: Sil0680 ATA133 controller. Supports 2 channels (4 devices). Full ATA 100/133 transfer rates, DMA bus mastering and RAID (Raid is dependent on OS drivers).
- Audio: "Kryptos" sound system with AD1888 SoundMax chipset and with audio headers.
- PCI slot: 1 x 66 Mhz, 3.3V 32bit. for Graphics & 1 x 33 Mhz, 32bit.
- SDRAM: 2 x DIMM memory slots (Regular,Unbuffered, Off the shelf PC100/133 SDRAM. Max of 1GB)

Last word from the 1996 Amiwest computer show was that they were aiming for a 2Q 2007 release. Some technically minded people doubt this board will ever run, judging from its prototype pictures. (i.e. component placing, and 90 degree mobo traces).

Update 25 Sept 08: Quote:
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Amy is ready, willing and able to operate AmigaOS4 that she was originally designed for. Our only obstacle at the present time, is the lawsuit between Amiga Inc., and Hyperion.

Board: Panda
Information from: http://www.ppcnux.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6413#troika

The design by Beijing UD Technology Co., Ltd. (UDTech) is an evaluation board similar to the MAI Teron that started a second life under Eyetech as the "AmigaOne" commercial product. This board has been licensed by Troika and is being modified slightly. Details of what actual changes are being made are not yet available.

The features of the UDTech board are:
- MPC7448 with up to 1.7 GHz
- Tundra Tsi109 Northbridge
- DDR2 DIMM slot
- 2x Gigabit Ethernet
- 2x SATA and 1 PATA connector
- 4x USB2.0 ports
- 1x PCI-66 and 1x PCI-33 slots
- 2x MiniPCI slots, e.g. for WLAN or Tuner cards
- Smartcard slot
- Stereo or S/PDIF Audio In and 5.1 or S/PDIF Audio Out
- Serial port
- Infrared interface
- 16 MB NOR Flash
- ATX power connector

Update: 19/09/08: The information above has not changed, however we at AW have been informed an update is planned and is in the works.

I hope this makes the discussion easier

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As for Java (not Javascript), that is pretty much never going to happen, but I honestly can't think of any common Windows or Linux app that requires it. Certainly no web pages.

Every single homebanking option here in Denmark requires JAVA, so at least some webpages requires it to be operational.

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My opinion is that AOS must be made possible for every PPC board (where is interest of producer).

But, Company that produces such boards should invest (pay Hyperion) for porting.

We have been without PPC hardware so long, and we cannot make such mistake that one company who produces boards has rights on AOS only.

@amigappc

No, that's now TWO off-topics. Stop it, start another thread if you want to discuss PPC, THIS thread is to discuss Troika and Panda. Got that?

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@Yo

So what is thread about Troika and Panda, if not thread about PPC boards?

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Got that?

"Got that"is not way of speaking in polite kind of conversation, and I don't want to be addressed like that, nor by you or anyone else.

@Troika

OK than...
Why dont give us some more info about that projects?
And "popssible" availability...
Without problems regarding Hyperion/AInc law problems...

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amigappc wrote: Not to mention bringing new users on platform.... 1-FF is a must 2-OO is a must 3-Java is a must 4-Flash is a must

1-Nope, a modern browser is needed not necessary FireFox. Much better alternative outhere (webkit). OWB is getting better every release even if the way is long.
2-Yes
3-Not a must but important
4-LOL Flash sucks, sucks so much it shouldn't even exist imho.

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>>4-LOL Flash sucks, sucks so much it shouldn't even exist imho.

Why does it suck?

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@amigappc

If Amy or Panda were ready they would ship it first with Linux and then AOS. However

1.It is not ready that is why they do not ship. Possibly it will be never finished but miracles happen.
2. They should seriously consider cost because other people maybe interested in PPC but without running AOS e.g me.
3. It is not necessary to be the latest hardware, if it has PC133SDRAM and 1GHZ processor with lots of PCI insted of onboard things and affordable e.g. 150$ then it is fine. But people not interested in this model are commiting suicide or sell very-very expensive HW.

@TheDaddy
Maybe because it's not the topic of conversation, and Yo will get very cross....?

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