@OldFart

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One thing is certainly eyebrowraising: the figure for 32k buffer. For some reason it drops to slightly above 8k buffer throughput.

Yes, perhaps it likes it. IIRC my drive has an 8MB cache.

Quote:

Whether WD drives are slow, in the sense of being typically or proverbially slow, I don't know. To me they seem to be average. But, hey, to devellope a correct statistically based opinion, I would like to have more different figures!

We need more examples. They seem to be avergae with other drives over a1ide PIO mode. But Spirantho's WD result was intersting.

Results from my 2.5" ~80G Seagate 7200rpm drive & SAM440ep @ Mhz
& Quick fix IDE drivers.


Seagate Momentus 7200.3 80GB SATA2 16MB
-------------------Unit 0 information------------------------
Flags : $000001C5 - present, supports DMA, ATA, supports power mgmt, supports cache flush, interrupts used,
Xfer mode : best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s) / best dma 70 (UDMA 6, 133 MB/s) / current 70 (UDMA 6, 133 MB/s)
Total blocks : 156301488
Blocksize : 512
Power mode : 2 / idle (ready for operation)
IO1 / IO2 / BMCR @ : $1100 / $110A / $1120

MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
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CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.5
Device: sii3114ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 58801356 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 84079411 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 93048012 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 91409612 bytes/sec


65536 byte test speed varies a little between 91M and 93M...

As it seems, 2.5" drives are not that much slower than 3.5" drives.

The main annoyance of A4k was the slow IDE performance (2MB/sec), but SAM delivers what I want.

some extra speed info...
CubeBM 897fps @ default window size
Stream memspeed
- read RAM 262MB/sec L1 2GB/sec
- memset0 RAM 986MB/s L1 13GB/s
IIRC, A4k A3640 had very slow mem speed and CS060MK2 gives some tens of megabytes.


It's funny that when I click lha extract, I see no progress bar, I have to verify the target folder to see if it worked or not. I like !

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@Stephen_Robinson

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Stephen_Robinson wrote: @redfox Just set it to E0E0 and 6.RAM Disk:> scsispeed DRIVE a1ide.device:0 FAST BUF1=8192 BUF2=16384 BUF3=32768 BUF4=65536 MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard ------------------------------------------------------------ CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.5 Device: a1ide.device:0 Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer. Read from SCSI: 29461299 bytes/sec Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer. Read from SCSI: 35215769 bytes/sec Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer. Read from SCSI: 38436864 bytes/sec Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer. Read from SCSI: 41022259 bytes/sec That'll do for me.

And after todays quick update:

scsispeed DRIVE a1ide.device:0 FAST BUF1=8192 BUF2=16384 BUF3=32768 BUF4=65536
MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.8
Device: a1ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 27849932 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 32387072 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 37083545 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 39210188 bytes/sec


hmmm...

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@Stephen_Robinson

Don't forget, previous updates included in todays.
So you may have already the IDE improvement in you first tests.

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Old numbers:

MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.5
Device: sii3114ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 42631168 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 62909644 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 84767539 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 94984601 bytes/sec


New numbers:

MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.8
Device: sii3114ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 44348211 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 65376256 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 85701427 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 94915788 bytes/sec

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Hi my hard drive benchmark on Sam flex 667mhz 512mb ram and ati radeon 9250.

5.Utils:Scsispeed4> scsispeed DRIVE sii3114ide.device:0 FAST BUF1=8192 BUF2=16384 BUF3=32768 BUF4=65536
MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.8
Device: sii3114ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 60955443 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 87438131 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 95284428 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 95305728 bytes/sec
__________________________________________________________________________________________________

5.Utils:Scsispeed4> idetool -u sii3114ide.device 0
-------------------Unit 0 information------------------------
Flags : $00000187 - present, LBA48 used, supports DMA, ATA, supports cache flush, interrupts used,
Xfer mode : best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s) / best dma 70 (UDMA 6, 133 MB/s) / current 70 (UDMA 6, 133 MB/s)
Total blocks : 976773168
Blocksize : 512
Power mode : 2 / idle (ready for operation)
IO1 / IO2 / BMCR @ : $2100 / $210A / $2120
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

5.Utils:Scsispeed4> idetool -d sii3114ide.device 0
-------------------ATA device information-------------------
Dev type : Hitachi HDP725050GLA360
Remov Dev : no
Remov Med : no (probably harddisk)
Revision : GM4OA52A
Serial # : GEC530RF0NG77
LBA : yes
Tot. Secs : 976773168
Tot. Size : 500107862016 bytes, 488386 mbytes, 488 gbytes


Best Regards
Henriques

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on my FLEX:
WDC WD5000AAKS-00YGA0
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CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.8
Device: sii3114ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 58882867 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 77315276 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 81217126 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 81353113 bytes/sec

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@OldFart

After installing QF 53.8:

S:RunSCSISpeed
MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2  Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020  AmigaOS Version: 53.8
Device: a1ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI:  24167219 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI:  29098803 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI:  32718848 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI:  35805593 bytes/sec

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@OldFart

Here's mine, A1G4XE (non 'fixed'), Western Digital 500GB drive, OS4.1 with the latest update (from a few days ago).

4.RAM Disk:Scsispeed4> scsispeed DRIVE sii0680ide.device:1 FAST BUF1=8192 BUF2=16384 BUF3=32768 BUF4=65536
MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2  Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020  AmigaOS Version: 53.8
Device: sii0680ide.device:1


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI:  25140838 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI:  32591872 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI:  38255001 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI:  42087219 bytes/sec

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@All

When looking at the figures so far, it is quite clear that SAM leads the charts with a wide margin. Especially in combo with a Seagate drive, throughput is extremely high:62Mb @ 8kb, 83Mb @ 16kb, 99Mb @ 32kb and a whopping 107Mb @ 64kb buffersize.

I'm still curious however how a combo of SAM and a WD Raptor would perform. Anyone fancy a test?

Anyway, have the figures come in, please!

OldFart

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@OldFart

i got today a new drive from western digital, a 160GB 2,5" 7200RPM called "WD Scorpio Black":

8.Workbench:> scsispeed DRIVE sii3114ide.device:0 FAST BUF1=8192 BUF2=16384 BUF3=32768 BUF4=65536
MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.8
Device: sii3114ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 61070950 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 77966540 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 85185331 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 85478604 bytes/sec

now a lot faster than my old samsung drive!

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@oldfart

Sam440ep @667mhz
Dev type : Corsair CSSD-F60GB2
Remov Dev : no
Remov Med : no (probably harddisk)
Tot. Size : 60022480896 bytes, 58615 mbytes, 58 gbytes

6.Progs:Scsispeed4> scsispeed DRIVE sii3114ide.device:0 FAST BUF1=8192 BUF2=16384 BUF3=32768 BUF4=65536
MKSoft ScsiSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
AmigaOS4 port by Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.12
Device: sii3114ide.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 64903577 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 87642112 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 105306521 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 116948992 bytes/sec

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@OldFart

Sometime after I enabled UDMA, my Western Digital 250 GB hard drive developed problems, appears to be slow to spin up on power on.

I went back to PIO mode so long ago, that this drive has spent more time operating in PIO mode than it ever operated in UDMA mode.

System operating in autodetect mode on onboard VIA controller.
DVD-ROM drive = master on primary bus
WD hard drive = master on secondary bus

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MicroA1 + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 2

@fingus

Your posting has gone unnoticed until now. I'm sorry for that.
The results have been included in post #1.
Btw: no bad figures at all!

Thank you.

OldFart

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@Antique

Thank you for your report. Congratulations with your figures: they are the highest to date. Especially in top hand looks darn interesting! The SSD's show here too to be very fast. Interesting devices, very interesting.

OldFart

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@redfox

Would be very interesting to see what figures one gets with a drive in PIO mode in comparisson to what Antique (post #72) has reported here.
Wouldn't it be time for you to consider a new HD for your µA1? Or are there plans to dump the µA1 over time, go for a SAM460 or even an X1000 with an SSD device attached to it?

My µA1 will probably be ditched this summer as I surely will buy either a SAM460 or an X1000 and indeed hook an SSD device to the newling. (Drool, drool.)

OldFart

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Now when x1000's SB600 has got DMA, it would be nice to see speed results also for x1000 setups.

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8.Sys_FC_user:> scsispeed DRIVE sb600sata.device:0 FAST BUF1=8192 BUF2=16384 BUF3=32768 BUF4=65536
ScsiSpeed 4.3, OS4 version
Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
Copyright © 2003-04 Daniel J. Andrea II & Stéphane Guillard
------------------------------------------------------------
CPU: 68020 AmigaOS Version: 53.26
Device: sb600sata.device:0


Testing with a 8192 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 58016972 bytes/sec

Testing with a 16384 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 78193459 bytes/sec

Testing with a 32768 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 92348416 bytes/sec

Testing with a 65536 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Read from SCSI: 104120320 bytes/sec

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@sundown

I wonder if the driver currently does only SATA1 DMA... or is the HDD the limiting factor.
At least with some fast SSD drive I would expect to see 200+MB/sec (the worlds fastest PPC desktop HDD drive speed ever?).

Then we would head towards RAID setups with x1000, to get 400MB/sec.

@thread
It would also be interesting to know how amiga systems compete with PPC Macs:
http://www.barefeats.com/hard78.html

copy dh0:1gb-dummyfile.bin to dh0:1gb-dummyfile2.bin
+ the timing command that I do not remember now

(I imagine file system (SFS), buffer settings and block size can make bigger difference on this.)

(initially it seems Amigas already outperform all PPC macintoshes in RAW disk performance)

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@sundown

Thank you for your contribution. Post #1 is dutifully updated to reflect your figures.

OldFart

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