Lack of hardware support, few native apps and so on.
It also seems very unreliable on the systems i have tried it on even compared to OS3.X.

It seems to improve for every release though, so i hope it will one day be mature enough for me to use it.

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@HenryCase

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Then why not build an AROS system for that money (or cheaper)?

Nothing stops you. It works in hosted mode on my laptop.

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Everyone complains about drivers on AROS, so why doesn't everyone partake in the golden opportunities we currently have to rid ourselves of this issue?

I don't complain. My problem with AROS is... I tend to forget about it. Not in "it's not worth it" way. From time to time I'll fetch new version and play with it. Then I plan to jump onto Aros-Exec. And in the end it stays that way on ~/Desktop or in /tmp and next reboot it's gone (I delete everything from desktop. Icons on desktop sucks ) and *puff*.

I need to write build script and keep my tabs on it, like I do with mplayer, ffmpeg, web.py and few other projects.

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Manu wrote: @HammerD Where is remote desktop for AROS ?

Well how about I take the 68k version of it and run on Aros under JanusUAE, I will test tonight and tell you if it works.

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@clusteruk

Should have thought about that first, no network on emulator at the moment hahaha
Still Aros is a great piece of work in progress.

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@opi

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opi wrote: I don't complain.

Good to know.

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opi wrote: My problem with AROS is... I tend to forget about it. Not in "it's not worth it" way. From time to time I'll fetch new version and play with it. Then I plan to jump onto Aros-Exec. And in the end it stays that way on ~/Desktop or in /tmp and next reboot it's gone (I delete everything from desktop. Icons on desktop sucks ) and *puff*. I need to write build script and keep my tabs on it, like I do with mplayer, ffmpeg, web.py and few other projects.

Have you tried a native install of VmwAROS? Keeping your laptop in dual/triple/quad boot mode (I don't know how many OSes you play with!) with AROS in its own partition may help you remember to check it out. With OWB and Mplayer now available you may even find yourself choosing to boot into it for more than just curiosity.

@clusteruk

stumbled on this source looking for vnc aros i have not enough coding skills to try to compile it but wonder if can run on an actual aros system...

http://toybox.cataclysm.cx/svn/AROS/local/contrib/Networking/Apps/RDesktop/rdesktop-2004-04-17-0600/vnc/

Saimon69

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It would be really useful if it is fast. Kind of Siamese in reverse. Why not mention it on Aros IRC

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Because AROS is not ready for everyday use and the brand matters.

Why the brand matter? It does because at least some people still recognize the name and that is better than a unknown name such as AROS. Even if the brand name will only get us a thousand more daily users it's better than an unknown name IMHO.

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Troels wrote: Because AROS is not ready for everyday use and the brand matters. Why the brand matter? It does because at least some people still recognize the name and that is better than a unknown name such as AROS. Even if the brand name will only get us a thousand more daily users it's better than an unknown name IMHO.

Ok, so what should happen to AROS in your opinion, should it abandon x86 to be PPC only? Should it cease operations all together so that the entire focus of the community will then only be split between three players rather than four (AOS, MOS, and Anubis), where Anubis takes on the mantle of x86 entry with its Linux kernal base?

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@fairlanefastback
AROS has had years to do something on virtually free and extremely powerful hardware (x86) with an infinite supply of potential developers (open sourced). You should change your poll to something like "If the rest of the world (remember, free hardware and open sourced) has rejected AROS why should we bother?"

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@ssolie

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ssolie wrote: @fairlanefastback AROS has had years to do something on virtually free and extremely powerful hardware (x86) with an infinite supply of potential developers (open sourced). You should change your poll to something like "If the rest of the world (remember, free hardware and open sourced) has rejected AROS why should we bother?"

Fair enough. This poll as I said in the intial post was somewhat tongue in cheek. I'm curious whats so bad with it being the Amiga-like entry for x86. Many here seem interested in Amiga OS 4.x development for PPC to be terminated in favor of x86. To me that seems ridiculous. So I'm curious whats so wrong with AROS flying the x86 flag for the community, why does AOS need to do it in their minds too when there are not enough resources to do it in the first place. I'm curious why people who want x86 so bad don't get behind AROS and instead spend their time banging their heads against a wall for AOS on x86 instead, when Hyperion said they have no interest to go there presently.

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Tried nearly all variations of aros, including winaros, and i must say the progress is painfully slow, they have worked on this for so many years now, should have been much more mature than it is. no proper sound support, no decent tcp/ip stack, the graphic support is way limited. They should put on a lot more effort on the driver side.
And the lack of software doesn`t makes the situation any better.
Some positive things is that it`s quite bug free compared to the earlier versions, and
that you can make aros look real sexxeh

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@fairlanefastback

AROS abandoning x86 would be pointless.
AROS developers should continue what they are doing if they enjoy it, I'm just saying that currently AROS isn't for me.

I use Ubuntu Linux on my PC's and look forward to give Anubis a try. It may not be AmigaOS but I like the idea and the realism behind the project .

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Troels wrote: @fairlanefastback ... look forward to give Anubis a try. It may not be AmigaOS but I like the idea and the realism behind the project .

Same here.

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@fairlanefastback

Why?

Because it don't boot on my notebook so is kindda useless.
I definitely will not get myself another x86 for an x86-based AROS.
Though this iMica stuff is cute and cheap...

If I was to get a computer for Amiga system, I'd rather buy Sam.
Alas MorphOS is coming to MacMinis, AOS4 maybe too.
So I wait.

As simple as that.

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@ssolie

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ssolie wrote: @fairlanefastback AROS has had years to do something on virtually free and extremely powerful hardware (x86) with an infinite supply of potential developers (open sourced). You should change your poll to something like "If the rest of the world (remember, free hardware and open sourced) has rejected AROS why should we bother?"

There is a difference in developing something for an audience who is fond of a certain way of working (AmigaOS fans) and developing for an audience who just want the computer to do what they need it to do. Linux, for example, is only slowly taking off in the mainstream, but there are plenty of other people supporting it who like using it.

In the Amiga community if AROS was embraced sooner then it would be a system with more mainstream appeal than it has now. It was the Amiga community that dropped the ball when it came to AROS, not the 'rest of the world' because Amiga fans knew what the OS could potentially become and the 'rest of the world' was clueless to that potential (not every person in the world has heard of, let alone seen, an Amiga).

Not all of the Amiga curse can be blamed on sources outside the community, if we'd all put away the constant bickering (and I know I'm guilty of this too) we'd get where we need to be much faster. I suppose the arguments at least show we are passionate about the platform.

AROS as a platform for Amiga fans is getting stronger, not saying it's perfect but in terms of a hobby OS it's pretty good already. Support it (along with all Amiga platforms) and who knows what that support might lead to, something you like to use perhaps?

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@fairlanefastback

My problem is that AmigaOS has moved on from the days of OS3.x. Amiga clones/work-alikes like AROS and MorphOS may have tried to recreate some of the latest features of AmigaOS but without access to the sources, they can't hope to produce a truly compatible OS.

Much as I admire the work that the AROS guys have put into it, I can't help but feel that their work is doing little more than duplicating the Amithlon releases of around 2000.

Rather than cry "we need more developers", AROS developers would be more productive and better supported if they developed for AmigaOS (currently called OS4). The movement of AmigaOS to other platforms is inevitable, so why not be a part of it, rather than stand off and try to do it themselves with insufficient resources?

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they can't hope to produce a truly compatible OS

MorphOS is more compatible with 3.x than AmigaOS.

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tonyw wrote: Rather than cry "we need more developers", AROS developers would be more productive and better supported if they developed for AmigaOS (currently called OS4).

You could argue that AROS was the future and OS4 developers would be more productive if they developed for AROS. In my opinion it would be unwise to get rid of the only Amiga platform without limits on the hardware it will run on (current driver issues aside).

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tonyw wrote: The movement of AmigaOS to other platforms is inevitable, so why not be a part of it, rather than stand off and try to do it themselves with insufficient resources?

Do you really think that the movement of AmigaOS 4 to other platforms is inevitable???? With the ongoing x86 discussions seen on AW at the moment I'd say that reasoning was far from sound.

Really, AROS is a great asset to the whole Amiga community, including AOS4, for a number of reasons, not least because it gives those interested in learning about AmigaOS a freely available platform to do so. Keeping AROS is in our interest, believe it!

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I prefer using other operating systems on x86 (only Linux so far)

If you like PPC more, you can install it on SAM440 ... no problem.

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