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I'd like to see OpenOffice ported to OS4.x.

Unfortunately that is open source and no $$$ can be made from it.

It would give the Amiga new credibility, though.

Anyway, just my wishful thinking...

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@UncleSpam

Unfortunately that is open source and no $$$ can be made from it.

way the #### not.
if someone port it i gladly pay for the port. even iff the source is free...
clouse the sorce on amiga port and then sell the port.

iff these linux trolls have anything to say about it lets see iff the wellfair office is willing to pay a court case..

@LoneHaranguer
l went to the war of the worlds concert here in nz with jeff lyne and band was fantastic
he mentioned in radio interview that he was very intrested in doing a movie or was going to do a movie based on the book. the concert avaible on dvd well worth a look
the girl on the percusion was really cute as well and glad to say she was at the live concert hehe

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@Metalheart

Do you realise the PS3 is not an option. It is very probably you couldn't run an AMIGA OS variant on the PS3 with GPU acceleration enabled.

With "some" work you could probably be clever with Cell and the SPU's; other than that the whole idea is not practical!

x86 is a huge project and would require a few million to pull off - unless the whole community bands together, people with money and coders, and pull it off in the largest OS community driven "outsourcing" / open source-based project since the creation of Linux.

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@retro

Way to go if you want to ruin what little respect the rest of the world has for the Amiga-community.

If such an OO.org-port would exist 99.99% of the work involved would have been done by people NOT involved in the port...

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@NutsAboutAmiga

We may only need 1gig for Doom3 but if we were to get support for modern graphic cards then you'll need to be able to address upto 2 gig of video ram as well. My PC is only a old duel core 939 CPU but with 4 gig of ram and an old 1 gig 4850 ATI graphic card and its slow by modern stardards but still needs a 64bit os. Most new graphic cards are now 1-2gig depending on the number of cores. So 64 bit memory addressing is the way forward IMHO.

@UncleSpam
Not much need for an OpenOffice port, since we already have AmiCygnix running AbiWord, Gnumeric & Sodipodi. AbiWord can read & write OpenOffice documents. AmiCygnix just needs a bit more optimisation now...

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@NutsAboutAmiga

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I think its more likely that some parts of AmigaOS4.x is going to support 64bit addressing most likely by virtual memory, I think most parts of OS is going to remain 32bit to be compatible.

Suppose it depends what you can do with the memory. I dream of the day I can create a DVD image in memory, RAM disk style,. Then by that time blu-ray will make myu idea obsolete.

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Remember the G5 contains 32bit and 64bit instructions, 64bit instructions will not work on 32bit computers, so your stuck whit 32bit if you like your programs to be compatible, whit virtual memory you can do 4GB per program in theory if the memory is private.

Yes, internally the OS could benefit from 64-bit. Only certain programs would benefit from being OS4-64 binaries.

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But you can in theory have more then 4GB (32bit) of physical memory (RAM) if the OS supported 64bit address space, and that my friend is a lot of physical memory for your Amiga server.

Yes I had thought of that. It would be easier to use a 32-bit address to point to one in 64-bit space. I guess the MMU table would need a change for each task address space to account for it's address and allocation size. I wonder what sort of hit that would have on the CPU.

@ChrisH

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OS5, which is twice as good as OS X don't you know?

Wouldn't that make it OS20? Or as good as OSXX.

What is that top secret project?
Hyperion bringing software but this game "when we think is time" we work but we dont wont to tell you what" is unprofesional.
We will be surprised maybe but dont tell any thing when you actualy dont have product and you dont want to talk about that.

Actualy software companies have time line for their projects.

Problem here is that we and Hyperion want that something what they developing for sure but they dont have people to work and money for that!

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@ChrisH

OpenOffice has the ability to read/write OpenOffice format and MSOffice format. That is key.

File compatibility and application robustness is what is needed.

Unfortunately OpenOffice also requires a Java backbone.

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@UncleSpam

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OpenOffice has the ability to read/write OpenOffice format and MSOffice format. That is key.

Abiword supports .doc and .rtf formats, even with footnotes and tables.

@UncleSpam

Gnumeric supports xls files.

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@Hypex

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Suppose it depends what you can do with the memory. I dream of the day I can create a DVD image in memory, RAM disk style,. Then by that time blu-ray will make myu idea obsolete.

I dream of the day I can have a memory mapped view of all file systems and not have to fopen()/fclose() (or your favorite equivalent) everything. You could combine that with transactional memory and perhaps do away with abstract locking mechanisms, too. Wouldn't that be a wonderful place to play? (In single CPU land, traditional locking mechanisms will probably give you better performance, but the mainstream is quickly moving away from that way of thinking.)

Since we now have everything in one big virtual address space (and 64 bits makes that feasible for today's desktop storage devices--SAN storage is pushing the boundaries), I don't really need a filing system, either. I can just search for the kind of data I need--last week's term paper, for example--and get an abstract handle (really, just a pointer) back that I can use in whatever application or domain defined way I choose.

Some day....

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I must be the only person NOT interested in the porting of OO or any other open source software to OS4.1. I would like to use OS4.1 so I can use unique Amiga software. I dont want to spend 600 euro for an underpowered board and an obscure OS to use software which is available on a free OS (linux) which runs on super cheap hardware.

If Hyperion want their OS really to succeed they should make some software which makes the OS actually usable... office software, image editing stuff, dtp software, games and anything else that would legitimate the existance of the said OS.

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@Nostromo

Someone out there somewhere has an idea for a word processor that is not simply a clone of Word or WordPerfect; however, that person would probably write said word processor for Windows, Mac OS, or Linux.

That's why I've been so critical (in some cases unfairly, I'm sure) of AmigaOS 4. If a developer wants to write a ground breaking application, and AmigaOS 4 offers the same operating system features as Windows, Mac OS, et al, then that developer is probably going to target the operating systems with the largest user base.

The original AmigaOS (not called that, of course) was successful because it offered features that no other contemporary consumer operating system offerred. Windows quickly overtook it for general purpose computing, but it took a decade for mainstream systems (Photoshop and audio production being the exception) to catch up in the multimedia space.

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@Trev

So, in other words - there is no space for Amiga anymore :(

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@Nostromo

Not even Microsoft has the resources to develop all the software you mentioned. Which is why there are third party software developers. Would we want a future in which all software is developed by a single company?

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@Hyperionmp

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Would we want a future in which all software is developed by a single company?

No.

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@Trev

if this reasoning was correct, there would be no MacOS or Linux. Similarly, everyone would be driving the same car (hopefully not American made).

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