What if x1000 flops, what happens then?

It is quite clear that Amiga in their view is something revolutionary in the computer world and not AmigaOS as a competitor to OSX/Windows (otherwise we would have AmigaOS on cheap Mac hardware to increase user base).

So if the x1000 does not sell well, is that the end of AmigaOS-PPC ?

@cv643d

I'm sure that's excactly what Amiga said back in 1985 when they launched the original 1000 ...only time will tell my fellow Amigan...in the mean time I'm enjoying Update 1 on my Samflex right now

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@Ancalimon


Well, first off, maybe it should be possible to watch the A-EON site with AOS, with heavy Flash content like that that should be a difficult endeavour.

I'd like the A-Eon site simple, cool and stylish, showing the case off in a good way..

See this for a direction... :

http://www.teenageengineering.com/products/op-1/

If that doesn't wet your appetite for that product.. ;)

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Ancalimon wrote: @TrevorDick Don't create a simple web page. Make it something attractive, I found this kebap shop which have a really nice web page. If someone who sells kebabs have a page like this, we should have an attractive web page as well.

@BigD

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BigD wrote: Without a release date, price, case pics or processor details this isn't as exciting as it sounds and will probably put people off buying Sam mobos until the 'proper' announcement!

That's what worries me the most as time passes without more news. If an entire month goes by and nothing else surfaces, they might as well have saved themselves the effort of running the "what is X" campaign. I simply don't understand the complete silence - not being able to reveal their main CPU is fair enough, but I'm sure there's other stuff they could put out there to keep the buzz going. I'm sure A-Eon must have *some* idea of what they expect people to do with the Xena chip, how about putting some source code out there, even if no-one can compile it yet? What about cool fluff like IRC logs of brainstorms or preliminary designs that didn't make it, the kind of stuff one would find in the Extras menu of a DVD? Instead they come up with a great viral campaign, get everyone worked up, and then just let it go flat. These guys really need to invest in a course on PR.

@CodeSmith

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CodeSmith wrote: That's what worries me the most as time passes without more news. If an entire month goes by and nothing else surfaces, they might as well have saved themselves the effort of running the "what is X" campaign. I simply don't understand the complete silence - not being able to reveal their main CPU is fair enough, but I'm sure there's other stuff they could put out there to keep the buzz going. ...

I'm not sure that a continual stream of information between now and the actual release of the X1000 would be beneficial; it would get old and tiresome very quickly. People were begging them for a sneak peek at the MAP, and they delivered that rather spectacularly. Now, we just need to wait, and we've been given a very rough time-frame.

From the A-Eon website:
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(although you won't have to wait until summer, and it should be a little cheaper!)

Summer in the northern hemisphere is still several months away, and attempting to keep the buzz at a high level for that amount of time is likely to make people feel that they're over-hyping it. I, for one, do not want or need to hear something new about the X1000 every week or two.

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@TrevorDick

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by TrevorDick on 9-Jan-2010 0:18:58 This was in full collaboration with Hyperion and there should be a joint announcement of the project from A-Eon and Hyperion within the next few days and we'll get a simple website up at the A-Eon address to replace the puzzle pages in time for that

Still nothing on this? 14 days is quite a lot more than "the next few days", I'd say. I also find it strange that you've gone in complete hiding, when you were posting so happily in he beginning of this?

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@zerohero
please give Trevor some more time. I know he's travelling atm. so perhaps things took a bit longer than anticipated.

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so perhaps things took a bit longer than anticipated.

And you don't think it's strange they ALWAYS do?

EDIT: spelling.

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@cv643d

"So if the x1000 does not sell well, is that the end of AmigaOS-PPC ?"

As far as I can see it, x1000 is a project of Hyperion's partner, so even if x1000 flops, it should not be the end of Hyperion/AOS4.

And then there is plan B (MOS) and plan C (AROS) if Hyperion fails.


offtopic/sidestepping:
I hope we manage to lure also some ex developers back.
example_ http://eager.back2roots.org/PROG/J/JOINER.html

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or plan D MACosX, or plan E WINdows7

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zerohero wrote: And you don't think it's strange they ALWAYS do?

Heh, nope. I don't think I've ever managed to do anything in the timeframe that I've said I would...

But I do agree that it is a lot more of a delay than (probably) most of us were expecting...

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@zerohero
No it's Amiga, things always take longer than anticipated nothing strange about that.
That said I would still be happy if they changed the website as it looks awful to people from outside who doesn't know about the riddles etc..

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@Kicko

those are a bit too far from "AmigaOS-PPC" for me.
Especially when they do not run on PPC (anymore).

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@BigD

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BigD wrote: @tiffers Quote: What are the chances BigD would be so up in arms if the M.A.P. of Hyperion's had been porting to x86 architecture? I bet he'd be over zealous in his attempts to convert all of the anti-x86 members on the forum. I doubt he'd be crying 'vapour' had the X1000 been based on the Intel Atom or the AMD Geode. How balanced is his P.O.V. really? I would love to see the AmigaOne X1000 with a PPC Processor see the light of day and I am not advocating a switch to x86 right now (although a Mac PPC port seems a no-brainer to increase the hardware base)! My only line of argument in all of this is the fact that Hyperion have an AmigaOne X1000 for development is NOT general knowledge and nor is a partnership between A-Eon and Hyperion and yet a lot on this forum speak as if it's a done deal! The 'riddle' site was a 'damp squib' in reality and garnered a lot of attention for no gain to A-Eon or Hyperion. We still have no idea what the system will be like and it simply another drip feed of info to stop us all giving up the ghost! This has not been positioned as a re-birth of the Amiga but simply a curio to try and get Tech journalists attention whilst not necessarily getting any extra sales! Without a release date, price, case pics or processor details this isn't as exciting as it sounds and will probably put people off buying Sam mobos until the 'proper' announcement!

I think the announcement was premature and intended to stop users from being tempted to buy G4 Mac hardware and run MorphOS2.4 and the soon to be released 2.5 which will have support for several G4 PowerMac models and perhaps the G4 eMac as well.

It would be harder to get people to come back to AmigaOS4.x on expensive X1000 hardware after they have just purchased a G4 Mac and pricey MorphOS license.

This strategy unfortunately hurts sales of the SAM boards too, as many people will wait and save their money for the coming X1000, knowing that it is very likely to be a more expensive option that they need to save for.

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I think the announcement was premature and intended to stop users from being tempted to buy G4 Mac hardware and run MorphOS2.4 and the soon to be released 2.5

Blue paranoia?

@pavlor

+1

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@amigadave

The reason for the announcement has been stated. And that the fact we won't get more info until close before it's ready.

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@Kicko

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Kicko wrote: @KimmoK or plan D MACosX, or plan E WINdows7

Or Linux...

EDIT: as plan F...

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marko wrote: @Kicko Quote: Kicko wrote: @KimmoK or plan D MACosX, or plan E WINdows7 Or Linux...

or Atari ST

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