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OS 4.1 is being worked on for about 7 different PowePC systems at once.
We will soon see if even the slowest power PC systems can be maxed out for normal use
by OS4.1. Even as the performance of the OS and software is enhanced, we are getting improvement in the performance some of the old hardware.

Why worry about the X1000 ? May be we can set up a MAXOUT challenge to test the limits
when it is available .

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@Spectre660

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OS 4.1 is being worked on for about 7 different PowerPC systems at once.

Hmmm... AOS4 should have Hardware abstraction layer, no?

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@wawa says:

"this exactly is what i fear is the case for the whole last decade. os4 and its dedicated hardware is in hands of entities that cannot sustain development by themselves. it is understandable that the develpoment comes to a halt every once in a while, as soon as a smallest obstacle appears. entities behind it see no return and handle against their own commercial interest. you have it literally mentioned above. omg!!! is that a form of sacrifice or self punishment, or does anybody really think that this is a healthy situation??"

You must be terrified. No one is coming to rescue the Amiga or the OS.

There is no market share and there is no profit in the Amiga for an entity large
enough to make a difference.

However on the micro-economic scale there are opportunities.

That's why a self funded effort such as the A-EON X1000 can proceed. No demands
will be accepted just as there were none accepted with the A1000. You made your
own opportunities adding on or writing software. The hardware and OS were made
available.

ACube provides the other piece of hardware for the OS to run on.

So, the summation of this would be that at least there is a chance for the Amiga
to become something at some point in the future. Because it still exists.

Wait for that point in time or join the effort.

Chirping random comments from the sidelines does not earn any respect because
everyone already knows the situation and knows what other technology is out there.

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kindergip wrote: @wawa says: So, the summation of this would be that at least there is a chance for the Amiga to become something at some point in the future. Because it still exists. Wait for that point in time or join the effort. Chirping random comments from the sidelines does not earn any respect because everyone already knows the situation and knows what other technology is out there.

well put

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@Dirk-B

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If you buy a pc for 500 ¤, for how many years will you use it?

How long you want to? I have got Pentium 90 here and it is still functioning and running Windows 95. I havent used it much but it is still running like new.

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@itix

In that case, I have a working Kim-1.

TrevorD

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@kindergip

micro or macro economics, where there is no demands to make, there a sane customer will make his choices accrording to satisfaction. and he will not support a priori something what he is not informed enough about.

@TrevorDick

Yeah, good you did point out his SILLY argument so I didn't have to.

@Thread

My guess is most people change their PC's when they upgrade to a
new Windows version. About every four years or so I would guess.
Amigas last longer, but the reason isn't a good one IMO. It's because there's
no good upgrades. When you have had a system for four years you'd like
to upgrade to something ATLEAST twice as fast.

Personally my PC system is about 4 years old (CPU & motherboard).
I have since added a SSD drive, changed to larger HDD, changed Graphics
card, changed case, changed PSU, added 4 GB RAM (total 6 GB) and added a
Blu-ray combo drive.
I tend to buy higher-end stuff so my gear usually ain't crap after 3-4 years.
Because of this my Core2Duo+Abit AW9D-Max still is quite usable.

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@kindergip
maybe my english is to bad there, can you explain

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However on the micro-economic scale there are opportunities.

and give an example. Currently I donnot see any oppertunities in our (currents)market. I honestly wondering wether the (AmigaOS 4.x related) sales of all Acube Products could keep them alive... Is there a second none "current Amiga market related" oppertunitie ?

However, I am more than happy that OS4.x is still alive, and I just love it ! But still don't understand how envolved parties managed to do that (other than throwing money in it, because "it is our passion, we donnot need/want any return on invest).

greetings gerograph

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Hey i have a Kim-1 in kit form still in its box :)

@gerograph

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But still don't understand how envolved parties managed to do that (other than throwing money in it, because "it is our passion, we donnot need/want any return on invest).

I'm sorry but that's not good enough. Trevor Dickinson needs to have the hard nosed mentality of a Dragon's Den wannabe if we are going to survive as a platform. It has pleased me that he has personally put his money where his mouth is and has pushed the platform forward in a way reminiscent of Phase 5 back in the day. However, the X1000 is the start of the process not the end. It NEEDS to be a success and succeed in bringing rich ex-Amiga fans and investors on board to get Amiga machines competing in niche markets other than retro/geek/fan boy ones! This NEEDS to become self sustaining or else the Amiga will continue its gradual fading away.......

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@Thread

This anoucement from A-Eon is a good start to tempt back ex-Classic users;

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We are also pleased to support (through Trevor Dickinson) the AmigaBounty.net JIT/E-UAE project recently assigned to Álmos Rajnai the author of Petunia for AmigaOS4. Although our main interest is for the AmigaOne X1000 we believe that JIT/E-UAE development will benefit all AmigaOS4 users. In a related development, as part of Trevor's Developer Hardware donation programme, Jan Zahurancik has been working on a AmiKit E-UAE distro for AmigaOS4. The combination of Rachy's JIT/E-UAE with AmiKit's Classic distro should provide all AmigaOS4 users with the ultimate Classic Amiga experience. Please visit the AmigaBounty.net and AmiKit websites if you wish to donate towards these worthwhile projects.

JIT enabled E-UAE for AmigaOS4
AmiKit - the ultimate Classic Amiga distro

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@BigD

ex classic users have their winuae with jit for a long time now.

@Kremlar

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Some people are hung up on PowerPC and don't want x86. Why not? I don't get it.

PowerPC power our Amigas 14 years.
Therefore, we feel sympathy for and commitment for this technology.

At the same time, both AROS/MOS/OS4 have nothing to offer in software and technology.
Everything that works on these systems and has any value is taken from Linux.

If you are interested in x86 it makes no sense to deal with AROS/MOS/OS4, stay with XP.
In contrast to AROS, XP / Linux have memory protection, use of multiple cores, are working drivers for graphics cards, network cards, etc..

@TrevorDick

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In that case, I have a working Kim-1.

My Pentium 90 running Windows 95 could still replace my other computers. There is still new software you can run on it.

Of course I dont use it daily because I have got better and faster computers. But there is nothing what would prevent me using it daily.

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@mailman2

Welcome!

@itix

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I have got Pentium 90 here and it is still functioning and running Windows 95.

It depends on what software you want to use. Autodesk`s upcoming version of Maya does not work with less than 4GB Ram.

@Samwel

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Personally my PC system is about 4 years old (CPU & motherboard). I have since added a SSD drive, changed to larger HDD, changed Graphics card, changed case, changed PSU, added 4 GB RAM (total 6 GB) and added a Blu-ray combo drive. I tend to buy higher-end stuff so my gear usually ain't crap after 3-4 years. Because of this my Core2Duo+Abit AW9D-Max still is quite usable.

You mean, because of this new software is still usable on your PC. It is just like people who upgrade their mobile phone every 1-4 years. There is nothing wrong with old phone but if you can not use Facebook mobile it is outdated and crap.

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@phantom_of_the_operator

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It depends on what software you want to use. Autodesk`s upcoming version of Maya does not work with less than 4GB Ram.

Luckily it does not run on Amiga so we dont have this disadvantage

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@wawa

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ex classic users have their winuae with jit for a long time now.

That's for the PC! There has been no transition machine between Amiga Classic & NG systems as of yet. AGA support is virtually non-existant on emulators and I know a lot of ex-users who would be disappointed at emulation with no Deluxe Paint V or Scala. I refuse to buy a PeeCee to run Amiga stuff! I can't even be bothered to get Windoze XP working on my Mac Intel Laptop! I don't need a PeeCee at home and Amiga emulation is not the killer PC app I been waiting for I am not the only one.

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