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Zylesea 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 13:56:56
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@realize

Therre will eb limited WLAN driver supprot. It got conformed by Henes. Here's what else he said:

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The idea is MorphOS 3.0 would be the next public version and will introduce support for PowerBook (only 15" and 17" PowerBook5,6-5,9 which are the two latest revisions RevD and RevE):

- It will be a completely *free* (as in money free, nobody would have to pay) upgrade for already registered users.
- There will probably be some experimental wireless support for a few external cardbus cards featuring WPA/WPA2. That was demonstrated in Essen.
- There will be enhanced 3D drivers for the R2xx range of Radeon cards
- Proper use of AGP bus has been added where reasonable and available, helping on some low vmem issues with Mac mini for example
- There will be a builtin CD/DVD recording tool named Jalapeno.
- There will be various other enhancements which are not disclosed yet.

As a final note, G5 iMac/PowerMac support will not be released anytime soon. It was just some experiment. No development work is done on it. The focus is now on bug fixing and implementing remaining features for 3.0.


Everything should be rather clear now for the coming time.

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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 13:57:46
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@cheesegrate
I don't think the situation is that harsh, they might not go out of their way as to purchase additional HW (for how cheap it might be) just to "try out", but if the time-demo would be available on Sams they would give it a go guaranteed, and once that is done the next step (registration) wouldn't be very hard

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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 14:15:43
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@DAX

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I bet you a six pack that between 440Eps, 440Flex and 460EX you would get at least 500 new users in a short time


I didn't know ACube produced (and sold) SAMs in that number. Can someone confirm that bold statement?

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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 14:26:50
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@cheesegrate

Quote:

cheesegrate wrote:

wizzards posts are representative of a large number of sam/os4 users who would rather have their testicles removed than ever try morphos or aros on their sams or if given a plate of gold.


Wizzards posts are representative only of Wizzards posts.

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These people are extremely fundamentalist and there is no hope for them.


These people?

Who the hell elected you judge?

Try THIS , maybe it will help clear your mind(?) and change your perception of the world.

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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 14:46:28
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@recedent
In an Italian forum, m3x from Acube said "more than 500 less than 2000" (how much more than 500 remains to be seen), moreover their last Uboot update was downloaded almost 600 times (just for 440s and excluding 460s). One might argue that a few have downloaded the file twice, but I know many haven't downloaded it at all, so it should compensate.

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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 15:03:15
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@DAX

This is interesting... Say, 570 SAM440s and 160 SAM460s (judging from 187 downloads of SAM460 audio driver on os4depot). That's quite a number (considering that so far we have circa 1200 registrations of MorphOS 2.x on all supported platforms).

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itix 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 15:22:52
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@DAX

SAM440 is discontinued and with only ~500 potential machines to install MorphOS it makes no sense to support it.

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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 15:24:52
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@itix

How many potential Efikas made the same sense back in 2008?

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vox 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 15:56:53
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@itix

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SAM440 is discontinued and with only ~500 potential machines to install MorphOS it makes no sense to support it.


First of all, SAM 440 is avail and supported, so no reason to call it "discontinued" at all (again, where do you get that ideas?) Only real problem is that it does not hold that much value since SAM 460 holds better performance at not so higher price (even people do complain on SAM 460 / AmigaOne X500 prices, SAM 440 prices should be dropped down to create new base platform).

500 machines is quite nice for NG Amiga volumes - it`s not much but let me guess that it is something that is worth supporting. Do you really expect that support for certain Mac model will bring 300+ new MOS licences in first few months? But by providing support you make the it possible in time.

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DAX 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 16:41:10
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@itix
500 machines which would be very fertile toward an Amiga-like OS specially if it ends-up squeezing all their potential.
The 440Flex isn't discontinued by the way, and it's avaialble at some retailers (such as RELEC).

Last edited by DAX on 21-Sep-2011 at 04:45 PM.

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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
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recedent wrote:
@itix

How many potential Efikas made the same sense back in 2008?


@recedent
Genesi paid for the port AFAIR.

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redrumloa 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 16:57:18
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@recedent

AFAIR Genesi bankrolled that port. I'd be willing to bet the MOS team would be open to Acube bankrolling a MOS port to the SAM board.

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eder 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 17:39:37
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@recedent

That is interesting.. Say i have the Efika, 2 Macmini, Emac, pmac, Peg 1 Peg 2
1 Macmini that broke down. Ihave then bought 7 reg could one then devide the 1200 by 7
like 170 reg users?

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recedent wrote:
@DAX

This is interesting... Say, 570 SAM440s and 160 SAM460s (judging from 187 downloads of SAM460 audio driver on os4depot). That's quite a number (considering that so far we have circa 1200 registrations of MorphOS 2.x on all supported platforms).

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itix 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 18:04:40
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@recedent

In 2008 MorphOS didnt support Mac platform and Genesi funded Efika port.

@vox & dax

ACube wont be making new batches of SAM440 anymore. They are only concentrating on SAM460 and AmigaOne 500.

Those 500 SAM440 boards wont translate to 500 potential users. MorphOS hardware is so cheap they would be using MorphOS already if they really wanted to.

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DiskDoctor 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 18:06:47
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From: Rzeszow, Poland

@Zylesea

Quote:

(...)
One step after another - let them finalize the Powerbook support first and then look what's feasible next.


So I presume x86 no earlier than 4.0?

This is not trolling neither a fightclub opener, at all. I only remember some dev's quote yet on MorphZone, mentioning x86 in a path (was it jacadcaps?). That was last year I suppose.

But you won't tell anyway, will you?



PS Did not have enough time to scan this all thing, the issue was mentioned probably but IMAO not anyone does he remember this MorphZone quote

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Spectre660 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 18:28:33
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@recedent

Check the downloads for the SAM audio drivers on Aminet.
at least 1247 + 187 =1434

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/audio/cs4281.lha

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/audio/sm502_audio.lha

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@DAX

Quote:
I bet you a six pack that between 440Eps, 440Flex and 460EX you would get at least 500 new users in a short time


I didn't know ACube produced (and sold) SAMs in that number. Can someone confirm that bold statement?

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Wizzard_o 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 18:41:33
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@opi
Thanks OPI always a pleasure to have my words twisted by you again, you should really consider a job in politics...

@Cheesegrate
Hmm, so why would I want to run MOS or god forbid AROS on my Sam when I have the GENUINE Amiga OS (thats Amiga OS 4.1) already on there? It seems a bit pointless to me...
I see you didn't answer my previous post either, oh well... pick your battles, right?

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eastone 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 18:45:04
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@Spectre660

I downloaded that driver 5 times now and what this mean ? 5 more new users?

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cha05e90 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 19:07:39
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@eastone

Instead of this rather **** and **** question you should say what you're really thinking.

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Spectre660 
Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled
Posted on 21-Sep-2011 19:11:34
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@eastone

Sure that It was only five times ?

I am shocked that people are suprised how many machines that Acube has been able to sell !!

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@Spectre660

I downloaded that driver 5 times now and what this mean ? 5 more new users?

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