@simplex

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PS I just discovered this: http://amigaworld.net/aboutus/ Some people need to read it IMHO.

Somewhat in need of an update as 8 of the 9 listed at bottom are not active here at present.
(I said that as delicately as I could).

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This is amigaworld.net. On this website there are OS4 specific sections.

Since the announcement of the X1000 it is simply not possible to have a
discussion about OS4, its hardware, its strengths or weaknesses without
the threads being ripped apart.

I once stated that I thought it would be great to have Morph on X1000.
Holy Crap! The reaction absolutely stunned me. The lambasting I got
quickly turned into another anti-OS4, anti-Hyperion, anti-Trevor,,,,
well, anti everything to do with anything OS4. I'll never do that again.
I used to cheer with the MorphOS guys when a new feature or function was
made available for their chosen system. Now I know better then to go into
that rough neighborhood, I learned my lesson.

I once mentioned that AROS was 'not my cup of tea'. BOOM! BANG! All of
a sudden I was a hater, a basher, the lowest form of life in the world.
Well, screw that. No more AROS support from this slob.

X1000 is on its way. When mine gets here, we will be elsewhere. It will
be a diversion to come here and see what new tactics, insults, and rude
remarks are under development toward OS4. Or maybe just a game of Sodoku
while compiling a Linux kernel on my new Amiga.

It will also be interesting to see how many AROS, and MorphOS threads
contain anything of substance.

Perhaps it is in the absentee landlords plan to sell this site to CUSA.
Might as well I guess, it would certainly be for the best.

For all those having interest in computing I'm sure you will find us.
We will be having a party and all are welcome. Windows, Mac, phones,
pads, anything, don't matter. All you need is a willingness to break away
from the 'everyday' with others of like mind. Enjoy computing for what it
is, and look forward to tomorrows discoveries on probably the last computer
platform in the world. Good times ahead people.

@zerohero

I think that was the idea with MorphOS and the A/box & Q/box approach, but hasn't happened yet. It is probably a lack of resources just like OS4. The lack of resources has been worse that it should have been.

MorphOS was supposed to be the official NG Amiga OS, but as everyone knows Wild Bill and Fleecy made unrealistic demands, which in turn lead to the H&P fiasco and eventually Hyperion getting the license to do a quick port for $20k, even that didn't work out like it was planned. Every step of the way the market and resources got fractured and damaged. In 2011 I find it amazing anyone is doing anything in any camp.

IMO anyone who owned a classic Amiga should have someting in common and not try to minimize the alternatives. For the most part AROS users, MOS users, classic users and emulator users get along fine. The fracture all seems to come from a percentage of OS4 users whom take a snobbish tone and thumb their nose at anyone posting who does not own an extremely high priced AmigaOS4 related system. I simply don't get it. If these OS4 users had their way and only OS4 users posted here, this place would become a ghost town like amigans.net.

This back and forth at times recently seemed almost over, with few exceptions users getting along. It seems the closer CUSA comes to lauching their "Commodore Amiga" computers, the more agressive OS4 hardliners get towards anyone not using OS4.

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@Mechanic

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For all those having interest in computing I'm sure you will find us.

(Y)et (A)nother (E)xodus?

ahh good. We haven't had a new website to scatter the remaining users for a month now.

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@number6

Must be down to Hyperion's own forum? I can't see that as a positive...

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@redrumloa

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It seems the closer CUSA comes to lauching their "Commodore Amiga" computers

etc.

I've seen no date from Barry posted anywhere really.

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@redrumloa

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It seems the closer CUSA comes to lauching their "Commodore Amiga" computers, the more agressive OS4 hardliners get towards anyone not using OS4.

Yes, that's it, lets blame the AmigaOS 4.x people. Please... Look at the recent threads, give me a list of instigators. They're from everywhere, blaming one single group is the easy way out.

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@redrumloa

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Must be down to Hyperion's own forum? I can't see that as a positive...

Actually, I expect there will be some statements being made about the future of Amiga forums RSN ®

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@redrumloa

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If these OS4 users had their way and only OS4 users posted here, this place would become a ghost town like amigans.net.

Guess you weren't around when the A1's first got os4, AW was an os4 site only. There were no arguments, ppl posted their issues & others offered solutions, this site was very active & fun in those days. The down side, IMO, was when this site opened the door to other platforms. I have nothing aganst those other platforms, but the way things stand, it is not a good mix. I feel AW would be a much better place if it went back to os4/classic only. If I, as an os4 user, were to post anything negative on an AROS/MorphOS site, I would be banned or my post removed, so don't hit me with being biased in any way. I feel a person should be free to use any system he/she chooses, but it seems others here can't tolorate that thought.

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Yes, that's it, lets blame the AmigaOS 4.x people. Please... Look at the recent threads, give me a list of instigators. They're from everywhere, blaming one single group is the easy way out.

I guess I am missing it, which is entirely possible because I don't click on many OS4 related threads.

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@sundown

Things were entirely different back then and IMHO not better. The size of the Kommunity was much, much bigger but the fighting among all camps was much nastier. Back then the fighting all started at the top with legal accusations and eventual lawsuits. I didn't frequent AWN too much as an AO staff member, but I won't get into the why here because that sort of flameware is best left in the past.

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@redrumloa

I do understand there were personal issues between you & AW, but for the greater majority, it was far better for most of us 6 yrs ago.

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Wow... where all this hatred coming from directed at OS4 & it's users...

I don't like OS4 myself but I certainly don't hate it or it's users or find them any more arrogant & pompous than any of the usual suspects in all the other camps...

Thing is when you look at it from someones point of view like mine who has and still does only use Amiga with the various versions of Workbench from 1.3 to 3.5 & OS4.0 on the odd occasion, then OS4 is really the only "alternative" Amiga OS that can lay claim to actually being for Amiga computers as quite simply it's the only one that can run on an Amiga with just the addition of a PPC board...

I mean apart from a very short period nearly a decade ago MorphOS has had nothing to do with the Amiga since then and is more a poor mans wannabe OS X and AROS well after all these years there's not much you can say about AROS for the Amiga other than it simply doesn't exist...

That's the real truth behind it, like it or not, course the best thing to do is go back to real Amiga hardware and don't go above 3.5 (3.9 is crap & unnecessary) and actually enjoy using the Amiga just like I do...

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Having no active parent companies for so long gives a person time to become fairly heavily invested in the route theyve taken to further thier interest.

Too true. A natural consequence of weak companies - financially and otherwise - in a fractured market, at least IMHO. No one company has really taken the bull by the horns and done much that is truely noteworthy for well over a decade now - for a number of legitimate and illegitimate reasons - , and if anything, things are worse now - since the Hyperion and AInc. negotiated settlement - than it ever was. A single strong parent company is what the Amiga community has needed for well over 15 years, but I'm worried that that ship has long since sailed away and will never see any shores again.

After so many years of broken promisses, legal battles, missed deadlines, etc., my expectations are so low now that the only hope I see now for anything Amiga continuing over the long term is through open source initiavtives.

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@Franko

Its not possible to make comment about what you don't like, only get labeled as a troll, better not to comment, in the end up fueling the spiral of hate, and help kill of tiny community that remains.

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@elatour

We never needed Amiga Inc, they never did have realistic vision of what AmigaOS should be.

Hyperion is not as strong as should be whit out the control of all the Amiga brands, they can't properly protect there interests in this position, and I guess they be horrible unpopular if they did.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Kinda see your point but most of the time on these forums their just aint much positive to say in reply to what some people post...

Plus if everyone kept shtum then people who said things that were wrong or inaccurate would never know better if someone didn't point it out to them...

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Franko wrote: Plus if everyone kept shtum then people who said things that were wrong or inaccurate would never know better if someone didn't point it out to them...

With that in mind...

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Franko wrote: after all these years there's not much you can say about AROS for the Amiga other than it simply doesn't exist...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/aros/files/nightly/20111013/Binaries/AROS-20111013-amiga-m68k-boot.lha/download

Seeing is believing.

@HenryCase

Yeah Bloodline pointed that out to me a wee while back but it really can't do much when you consider the amount of years they've spent on it...

It exists... but not in any real usable format...

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@sundown

I am not really sure about it. AWN used to delete threads, ban users and do some weird things in the past. On the other hand what happened to AWN in last 10 years is the same what happened to #amigaworld.

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