"When" will OS4 run on affordable hardware?

Apparently soon, new netbook announced at Amiwest.

Last edited by Darth_X on 23-Oct-2011 at 05:56 AM.

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Buy Sam460 / AmigaOne 500

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That's NOT affordable.

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lots of people have bought a sam460, it is affordable, just not for everyone. maybe your question should be changed?

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It is my understanding that Ben Hermans doesn't assemble hardware.

To provide the thread starter with an answer though, "affordable" Amigas will be available as soon as there is a commercially viable demand for one.

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@Derfs

Sorry, but I have to agree that it is not affordable.
By your definition, a Ferrari is also affordable...to some. ;)

I'm not saying anything can be done for less, just that anything ranging from 800-2000EUR is certainly not affordable to the majority of people.

@NutsAboutAmiga

It already does. Check out the classifieds! :p

Affordable is relative. It doesn't have to mean "cheap" or "competitive". I'm sure there must be tons of computer enthusiasts out there would would be prepared to pay Sam prices for hardware to run a truly niche operating system with a retro brand attached.

I'll be honest: I think lack of exciting software projects is a more pressing problem. The hardware situation for AmigaOS 4 is hardly stellar but it would be more than good enough for lots and lots of users, were there a thriving development scene attached to it. Plenty of people will pay stupid money for a computer, but not if the only new apps are ports.

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could you quantify 'affordable' so we all have some frame of reference? i take it from your signature that you have a genuine interest in AmigaOS NG hardware, yes?

i might also suggest addressing your post to someone else. with the exception of his personal investment in A-EON, ben has nothing to do with third-party hardware vendors. he does, though, have the ability to choose already existing hardware. so if you're interested in that, perhaps you could make a suggestion? maybe he hasn't thought of the same thing you have.

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Derfs wrote: @Darth_X lots of people have bought a sam460, it is affordable, just not for everyone. maybe your question should be changed?

Either support my question or ignore this thread.

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Ben Herman don't sell hardware, nor Hyperion, they only produce software.

So indeed your question is not aimed at the good person, sorry.

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When os4 gets written to a cheap x86 hardware .

Why not ask Herman ?

Last edited by Kicko on 16-Oct-2011 at 08:01 PM.

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Kicko wrote: When os4 gets written to a cheap x86 hardware . Why not ask Herman ?

Thanks for the answer, you might be right.

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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: @Darth_X Buy Sam460 / AmigaOne 500

And since when was it affordable?
I can afford a pc system, but no way I can afford this with my current financial situation.

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When os4 gets written to a cheap x86 hardware .

I don't think it's actually THAT much cheaper to produce dedicated X86 hardware, than dedicated PPC hardware.

Well maybe a bit, but definitely not as much as some would hope.

Of course using "off the shelf" solution is always the cheapest, but as that hasn't been an option for AmigaOS4 on PowerPC, I can't see how X86 would lower the price THAT much...

Even if Apple has quite "comfortable" profit margins, I'm pretty sure any potential "non profit" hardware project would end up costing much more than similar X86 Mac.

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Ben Herman don't sell hardware, nor Hyperion, they only produce software.

And software can support cheaper hardware....

@Derfs

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Derfs wrote: @Darth_X lots of people have bought a sam460, it is affordable, just not for everyone. maybe your question should be changed?

I think it is pretty clear... Affordable for pretty much everyone, which is the case with PC/x86 and even apple to some extent.
Some people can afford even the X1000, but that does not make it affordable.

I wish there was at least a cheap low end product for those who arent rich like something similar to the first Efika for MOS.

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Kicko wrote: When os4 gets written to a cheap x86 hardware .

Which reminds me, is there a bounty to write an emulator than runs OS4 on x86?

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Jupp3 wrote: @Kicko Quote: When os4 gets written to a cheap x86 hardware . I don't think it's actually THAT much cheaper to produce dedicated X86 hardware, than dedicated PPC hardware. Well maybe a bit, but definitely not as much as some would hope. Of course using "off the shelf" solution is always the cheapest, but as that hasn't been an option for AmigaOS4 on PowerPC, I can't see how X86 would lower the price THAT much... Even if Apple has quite "comfortable" profit margins, I'm pretty sure any potential "non profit" hardware project would end up costing much more than similar X86 Mac.

And the only ones standing in way for that is Hyperion at the moment. They have claimed that OS4 is portable enough for this to be possible, but yet they just don't want to port it.
And why would it not be cheaper when x86 hardware is dirt cheap compared? Even with the OS4.x license it would be way cheaper.

@Darth_X

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Please don't TROLL. Either support my question or ignore this thread.

could you answer my question? what price is 'affordable' in your mind, and, are you actually interested in AmigaOS NG or is there another purpose to this thread?

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And the only ones standing in way for that is Hyperion at the moment. They have claimed that OS4 is portable enough for this to be possible, but yet they just don't want to port it. And why would it not be cheaper when x86 hardware is dirt cheap compared? Even with the OS4.x license it would be way cheaper.

are you sure hyperion (or any of its representatives) have suggested porting to x86/x64 was realistic? i don't think they have. they are already supporting more than one new hardware platform at the moment, albeit POWER-based.

again, i'd like to hear what people consider 'affordable....'

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