@klx300r

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so why did the chicken cross the road to enter the house? why to inspect the new AmigaOne X1000 of course

Its more true that you think, they are not actually our chickens but belong to the people across the road. So they *did* cross the road to inspect the X1000 !

They also seem to have taken a fancy to a corner of my garage where they sometimes leave some eggs, I am not complaining about that

I think I need to suggest that they become X1000/OS 4 beta testers.

And a brand new logo for Trevor maybe, "The X1000 - Inspected by Chickens".



Bill.

@TearsOfMe

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Find today an X1000 entry on the GFXBench2d.

Update 5?

Do the X1000 beta boards have update 5 pre-installed already? If so - does anyone know what the changelog is?

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What i want to see is it playing back some cpu intensive video like at least 720p or 1080p video.

I am starting to be skeptical about if this system is even capable of that...

@TearsOfMe

It got beat by a Sam 460 with a card with the same chipset. :(

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@terminills

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It got beat by a Sam 460 with a card with the same chipset. :(

3 % difference? As you wrote: card with the same chipset.

@pavlor

3% the other way would have been nicer :)

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@terminills

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It got beat by a Sam 460 with a card with the same chipset. :(

Not quite.

The XFX is an over-clocked version of the standard R790 (I think it is clocked just slightly higher at 50MHz more).

This would explain the speed increase. Also it may be that the cards are running at their full speed and there is nothing more to be gained with running a faster Amiga.

Looking at the Windows benchmarks the scores seem pretty even. Not bad considering the investment in Windows drivers.

Last edited by -Sam- on 30-Dec-2011 at 03:25 PM.

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To be noted, that Sam460ex was running Update 2 which miss DMA optimizations and other little speedups introduced with Update 3 and Update 4, otherwise the difference is bigger
Anyway that's only a 2D benchmak... in real life applications things are different

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@-Sam-

Ah you're correct a 850Mhz vs 900Mhz card however after looking at a few reviews there hasn't been a 10% speed difference. So I still say it should have been closer.

PCIe x4 vs x16 etc.

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been a 10% speed difference

My math says 3 %...

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PCIe x4 vs x16 etc.

Not much difference in 2D only benchmark.

@m3x

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Anyway that's only a 2D benchmak... in real life applications things are different

You are quite right. I wouldn't read too much into such focused benchmarks.

Sam460 users certainly can be assured of a decent turn of speed in 2D either way.

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@Tomas

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What i want to see is it playing back some cpu intensive video like at least 720p or 1080p video.

Why don't you just buy a Blue-Ray player for your TV, why has computing degenerated into mere media players ?

@Tomas

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What i want to see is it playing back some cpu intensive video like at least 720p or 1080p video.

Why don't you just buy a Blue-Ray player for your TV, why has computing degenerated into mere media players ?

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pavlor wrote: @terminills Quote: PCIe x4 vs x16 etc. Not much difference in 2D only benchmark.

even on 3D benchmark pcie x4 is slower than x16 only at very very high resolution where it's bandwitch to make difference.
i think only at 2560x1600 you should see some difference between x4 and x16.
at this resoluzione, bandwitch is very important.

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It got beat by a Sam 460 with a card with the same chipset. :(

Its GFX card benchmark, and there is no result with exactly same card for SAM 460 and X1000. Driver is early beta 0.15, even SAM 460 has nice results

Integrated Silicon Motion is however slower then CVision and Voodo.

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@carrera_231cv

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At last I can see a real Amiga X1000 (no graphics) all in white. It looks awesome.

How extremely unexpected! My brother wished for a new case for christmas and lined up a few he could imagine. I surfed a bit and decided for the Fractal Design Define R3 case, and now for the first time I see the X1000 case in detail and it is this very case! (except the boing at the front of course. His was just plain flat.)

Although it should be sound-proofed he said it was pretty loud. It also doesn't give room for vibration suspensioned harddisks since it only has two 5.25" bays. Could get annoying if I get a wobbly disk, especially in 7200rpm...

It looks really good though and it has cable channels so you can hide all cables in the back (right) side and pull them out where you need them instead of having the lot all over inside the case.

PSU at the bottom makes for a nice vaccuum cleaner

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@Deniil715

A friend of mine bought one of those cases (without the Boing Ball) from NewEgg (IIRC) and he really likes it. I saw the X1000 in the Boing Ball case at AmiWest 2010 & 2011 and like it's construction and materials (very heavy weight & sturdy). In fact, I like the case so much, I am buying an extra empty case to try to convert to hold my A4000D w/PowerTower 7 slot Zorro & ISA bus board.

I will get the one for the A4000D in white, while my X1000 will be in a black case. Just waiting for a price and shipping estimate for the extra case, so I can order it. It will make for a great Video Toaster/Flyer case, as it has many hard drive bays and good cooling. I was not aware that it was loud, so it probably depends on what fans and fan speeds you use in it and what PSU is installed.

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@bandwidth

Last time I checked the GFX bus (slot) bandwidth was really important only when there was very little RAM on the GFX board, to swap textures to/from memory. With 512MB and more 3D RAM that kind of need should be pretty non existent.
So, when there is enough 3D RAM the stress comes to the bus by the CPU that instructs the 3D chip to do it's tasks.
I'm surpriced if/when a 667Mhz 440 can fill a PCI 33Mhz bandwidth (130MB/s), but can any PPC SoC fill the bandwidth of a PCIe x4 (2GB/s) with any 3D game?

@Silicon Motion

Could Natami FPGA replace such a chip?
Is a SAM460ex kind of board possible to do by replacing the Silicon Motion with FPGA?

(dreaming about Natami flavour of Amiga mid range computers:
-1...1.5Ghz PPC SoC (460 + SilSATA or a better SoC with more integrated SATA)
-FPGA to produce basic GFX+Audio and some I/O (on a PCI/66Mhz bus of the SoC)
-free x4...x8 PCIe slot in mini-ITX model (compact tower or retro+AOS4gameconsole)
-additionally one x1 slot and one PCI slot on a flex size model
-connector for PPC SoC local bus (xena or whatever geeky upgrade) if possible
-etc...
-designed for Amiga niche, cost consious (700-800EUR prebuilt), energy efficient

but most likely it would be futile thing to add a FPGA, better leave it as an expansion option and
save 100EUR in board cost...)

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Another little vid of some lucky git getting his X1000 and white case
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR6yi7ZvTvw

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BillE wrote: @klx300r Quote: so why did the chicken cross the road to enter the house? why to inspect the new AmigaOne X1000 of course Its more true that you think, they are not actually our chickens but belong to the people across the road. So they *did* cross the road to inspect the X1000 !... Bill.

...my God that's just too funny! thanks for the great laugh and happy New Year to you and your chickens

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