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WolfToTheMoon 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 16:46:17
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@number6

I like the s/w port idea as much as you, but let's face it... you'd first need to upgrade at least one, if not all OSes for a port to be possible(OS4 and AROS both need a MUI update). So it's not likely to happen fast and it is my opinion that the project needs to be done in a short amount of time to be completed...

you know, KISS.... Keep it simple, stupid. With a PPC card, there's a well defined target, a well defined demand and designs are already available.

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wawa 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 16:47:03
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as if i knew that this thread ends up in complete chaos. i suppose mos and aros guys are just right to avoid this completely insane topic.

btw my last hints to you:
1. cusa rep has stated they want something to enlarge user base, so no whatever accelerators or other add ups to existing hardware, not even ppc. this is completely sane. expecting something like that from them would be really really dumb.

2. have they proven any software competence so a software project can be pulled with any chance?

3. valuable informations go under in piles of rubbish posts in this thread. it makes no sence to follow it further.

bye.

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Bamiga2002 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 16:47:49
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OS3.x & AROS for Natami (later make PPC/x86 addon for OS4 & MOS)
OS4 & MOS (+AROS(?)) for X1000/x86-derivative (later make Natami-addon for OS3.x & AROS)

how's that for brainstorming? :)

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number6 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 16:56:07
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@WolfToTheMoon

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With a PPC card, there's a well defined target, a well defined demand and designs are already available.


The greater market was always to NOT limit it's use only to NG, as in running OS4.x or an older version of MorphOS only. Are you thinking the same way? Are you thinking in terms of classic users?

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WolfToTheMoon 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 17:05:12
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@number6

I'm thinking in terms of getting it done. A SW port(s) is a great idea, one that could potentially make a NG Amiga system much more attractive to new users, but there's the question of OS support for new applications and that's not up to CUSA. Now, CUSA could very well say... OK, we'll fund a port of this and that, and in few months it could turn out that the port is not doable because of OS limitations... see my point? It's an idea/project likely to fail in execution, or likely one that could last for a very long time before completed.

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number6 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 17:11:49
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@WolfToTheMoon

Understood. But again, I'm now talking about your idea concerning an accelerator. Are you thinking in terms of NG only or a product that classic could use as well? Think BPPC/CSPPC similarity here.

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WolfToTheMoon 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 17:19:00
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@number6

I'm thinking that classic support would be beneficial, since it's the biggest user base.

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terminills 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 18:30:15
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@WolfToTheMoon

Is is really worth the cost involved? I would rather see software be updated.



edit: wtf kind of crack was I on. :)

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Metalheart 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 18:32:02
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Classic support is great and all, but not the way to the future.....

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bison 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 19:30:47
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@EDanaII

Quote:
Amiga-like with Linux kernel (to enable memory protection, smp, etc...)

I've nothing against Linux—I use it as my primary OS—but I'd rather see "Amiga-like with NetBSD kernel." This gets you memory protection and SMP, but it's a lot smaller than Linux, and it's very portable. It's also the smallest footprint OS available that gets you Firefox and Open Office without a lot of additional work.

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Mechanic 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 22-Dec-2011 21:42:05
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As evidenced by this thread. Polls are not going to work. Too soon from our side.

If Leo wishes to do something for the community, that is admirable.

However, asking us what we want, and then going to MorphOS/Hyperion/A-eon/Cloanto,
is just the wrong way around.

Let us say a mid-to-low-end motherboard is polled to be most wanted. Then CUSA goes
to OS4 group and they say no, perhaps due to having a similar project going, but
give no reason to CUSA......OS4 group can then be pointed to as the bad guys.

Lose-lose situation for AmigaOS businesses.

Same for MorphOS.

So, If it's hardware-------start at the other end, then it's time for polls.

Software? Does not fit in with the original offer, nor would a single package
expand the platform to any extent.

That leaves cards that all OSes could benefit from, except non-expanded classics
maybe.

They may only have to deal with a single independent developer. The card may
already exist and only require adaptation. No toes to step on, minimal hassle, and
something all can use if they so desire. Still the offer should start at the other
end to avoid any plan conflicts.

Finally-----start at the other end.

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EDanaII 
Re: CUSA POLL
Posted on 23-Dec-2011 0:19:04
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@ bison

And I'm not particularly for Linux either. :) I can change my suggested poll option to be something like: AmigaOS based on alternative kernel for SMP, Memory Protection, etc...

But I think my poll is getting lost in the heat of things, not too mention the other poll on Blogspot. :)

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