@KimmoK

I'd like to see the Valve Software "Source" engine ported over...
get the Half Life series and Portal games (GLaDOS as a spokesperson for AmigaOS?)

Not quite fitting the box so break the box and make a new one :)

as for any "Classic" option... a "Classic in a box" Application is definitely something I am also considering
and would have no problems in setting up a more complete "WHDLoad" style tool for this.

@Belxjander

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Using off the shelf parts for AROS release kit, and having AOS4.x on the higher end kit... I would choose *two* price ranges here... $199-$399 for the AROS basic options with the AOS4.x machines needing to be at least equally powered.

why the hell should slower hardware become "higher end kit"? i fear to find the available off the shell x86 parts that are slower than current os4 hardware might be too difficult a task.

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Next generation PPC CD 32 Amiga console

PPC proccesor slot
with PCI Express slot for video card and
10 USB ports for joypads, mouse, keyboards, flash, ..
blue ray drive
Wi Fi
with OS4

First contact Hyperion for OS4 licence, and when they officialy announce partnership with you I can give 500 $

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@Comi

The expandable games console, Hmmm!!
I like it.

if it would be my option 8, it would be:
-PPC SOC based (1.5Ghz or so, potentially multicore)
-PPC expansion possibility if we find suitable SOC with HyperTransport/RapidIO links
-One PCIe slot, as fast as possible
-minimum of 1GB of 3D RAM
-minimum of 1GB system RAM
-sata from the SOC
-some high speed USB from the SOC
-some extra USB etc via xena/xmos/FPGA
-audio by the SOC or by xmos or via FPGA or via off the self
-perhaps also wifi+routing could be done by xcore (+Kinect+whateverforfuture)
etc..
I imagine it would be more expensive than mainstream consoles with less modern content, but perhaps more retro content. But 500EUR max, IMHO.

Gaming product might appeal to C= USA.
"Commodore Amiga 256b" hinting 256bit memory bath.
"Commodore Amiga 806" hinting 800 shader processors+2CPU cores+4xcore

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Guys, if you suggest PPC hardware, it's not going to be cheap... Even a custom x86 project will cost dearly if it is only applicable to this market(low numbers). I would suggest a software project that would benefit ALL NG-Amigaoids, if possible. Like, for example, an Open Office port or something like that. Be smart...

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All segments of market even in Amiga world are covered.

High end - A Eon - Amiga One X1000
Low end - A Cube- Amiga One 500, Sam 460ex, Sam 440 flex/ep

In development
Retro/classics - NatAmi
Mobile - New notebook
New projects from A- Eon and Varisys- one of them -possible PPC card-
There is also second projest but we will se am I right for first gues..

If CUSA is so generous and "have will to make challenge to the community/Amiga ppc hardware" why don't try to make new piece of missing hardware..
Consoles today are home systems wich one old Amigan yet have to find out...basicly is computers for living room, for kids and for old for enterntaiment prop....video, games, music, internet, even workout...
Best way to promote next gen Amiga to the all generation and mainstream...

I know that there is no chanse to beat Sony and others...but think about lets say x1000... if you put it in leaving room chances for succes of sale are biger- simple it is more exposed...
If you get one entertaiment computer to public or to your family and kids succes chances are bigger...every day usage can make it to sell in big volume from Amiga retrospective..
Amiga OS4 then will be in much better position.

But first of all I like to see CUSA on Hyperion statement "getting licence for OS4"

Only then i will be convinced to pay that money...

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@Comi

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but think about lets say x1000... if you put it in leaving room chances for succes of sale are biger- simple it is more exposed...

A completely new console would be too expansive to develop and support, especially for an initial order of 500. And X1000 is not suited to be one...

Who wants a console anyway, that's for kids and lazy asses...

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I don't see any point of CUSA involvment if they don't wont to produce Amiga PPC OS4 based hardware..
All other segments of Amiga or Amiga like systems are covered with MorphOS, Aros ...CUSA software/hardware...

They want challenge and 250.000$/ 500 preorders

I want PPC entertaiment system with OS4

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@WolfToTheMoon

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I would suggest a software project that would benefit ALL NG-Amigaoids,

Good idea since that is the only possible way to involve MorphOS users in this discussion. They are presently not taking part for obvious reasons.

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Oh, and since I'm here, here's my suggestion...

It's not Amiga related...

A super C64, based on a 65816 or maybe even a 32/64 bit 65xx in FPGA(it doesn't exist right now, but there are some ideas being discussed on 6502.org). Get GEOS on it and it's done... Use the existing C64x chassis with some minor modifications(allow for C64 classic ports). That will make all C64 fans happy.

Forget AMIGA, this community will NEVER agree on anything.

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You're right, since MOS users represent a significant percentage of the NG userbase, it's only fair to consider them... Though they may not be interested, since they have a very large supply of cheap hardware and they seem to be mostly happy with OS development(which CUSA, at this time, legally, cannot support... maybe in the future).

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All the amiga flavors would enjoy more useful applications software. It's the only common ground I can see, and it takes the h/w issues that divide us off the table.
It's possible that even the other group of folks presently staying clear of this conversation (amigans.net) might also see fit to chiming in, if we just talk s/w.
Devs often work for love of the hobby, but you won't find many who would turn down payment for their work...if offered.
Could not the escrow account be basically structured for payment of an agreed upon port for all parties? By "all" I'll qualify that with practicality, since it may not be possible to cover all angles here, but perhaps most.

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All the amiga flavors would enjoy more useful applications software. It's the only common ground I can see, and it takes the h/w issues that divide us off the table.

but there's also one large pitfall in the s/w approach... namely, you would have to use the lowest common denominator, which, at this moment, doesn't really exist. Therefore, it would make sense to first develop the Zune upgrade on AROS and port it on other 2 OSes, since without it, work to complete all 3 ports might be a bit too much troublesome. This would also ensure future easy porting.

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The three console manufacturers (PS3, XBox and Wii) pretty much have a lock on consoles. What effect would 500 AMiga consoles have on millions of Xboxes?????

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but there's also one large pitfall in the s/w approach... namely, you would have to use the lowest common denominator, which, at this moment, doesn't really exist. Therefore, it would make sense to first develop the Zune upgrade on AROS and port it on other 2 OSes, since without it, work to complete all 3 ports might be a bit too much troublesome. This would also ensure future easy porting.

mkay. Then perhaps at this point we should encourage an AROS developer familiar with the status of Zune to give us an update as to the status of the project, before we take the discussion further.

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@WolfToTheMoon

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Guys, if you suggest PPC hardware, it's not going to be cheap... Even a custom x86 project will cost dearly if it is only applicable to this market(low numbers).

and what reason would there be to develop any custom x86 hardware as long as you can get off the shelf whatever you want?

@wawa

None... I was simply stating "the obvious"

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but there's also one large pitfall in the s/w approach... namely, you would have to use the lowest common denominator, which, at this moment, doesn't really exist. Therefore, it would make sense to first develop the Zune upgrade on AROS and port it on other 2 OSes, since without it, work to complete all 3 ports might be a bit too much troublesome. This would also ensure future easy porting.

The lowest common denominator does exist, you said it yourself, AROS. Forget the LCD port instead focus on AmigaOS and then MorphOS.

EDIT: Removed sly comment.

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The lowest common denominator does exist, you said it yourself, AROS

It does exist, but it's not optimal. I doubt you could port Open Office on AROS as it is now. Or any more advanced application. Simply, the constraints of Zune are too big, as it is today. We would need MUI 4, at the least.

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It does exist, but it's not optimal. I doubt you could port Open Office on AROS as it is now. Or any more advanced application. Simply, the constraints of Zune are too big, as it is today. We would need MUI 4, at the least.

http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=62280#forumpost62280

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