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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 19:54:00
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| @Mechanic Quote:
Timberwolf works just dandy here without any add-ons.(sam400ep-667) As for Bookmarks, I have found that when adding a new one it is... ..er....more reliable to;
Click Bookmarks Move down to Bookmark this Page, then While that is highlighted (blue) hit enter Use the tab key to setup the fields Tab to DONE, hit enter.
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I just tried it and it does nothing. It doesn't matter if I highlight the "Bookmark this Page" (blue) and hit enter or if I click on that menu. Nothing happens. TW just sits there like I've done nothing.
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 19:59:57
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| @mr2 Quote:
Looks like somebody forgot to put quotes around a path in TW
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 20:07:18
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| @Xenic
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Xenic wrote: When I ran TImberwolf from RAM: while trying to get bookmarks working, I discovered that it leaves dozens of files locked when you quit the program. I can understand one forgotten lock but there were so many locked files that I had to reboot to clear the TImberwolf directory from RAM:. |
I have noticed that memory is not always freed when running from HD as well, so maybe some components failed to quit/shutdown in your case as well. |
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 20:10:11
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| @Mechanic How fast does it run for you?? It seems slow for me even when overclocked to 667mhz using 133fsb/pci. I did install downloadhelper and flashblock extensions though. |
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 20:50:59
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Tomas wrote: @Mechanic How fast does it run for you?? It seems slow for me even when overclocked to 667mhz using 133fsb/pci. I did install downloadhelper and flashblock extensions though. |
Loads in about 40 sec. to screen and then maybe 7 sec till fully useable. Certainly not goingto set any records at this point.
It's about half as fast loading pages without too many graphics as OWB.......and it will nevercatch AWeb.
All in all a good early beta.Last edited by Mechanic on 22-Feb-2012 at 09:13 PM.
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 21:21:47
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| @Xenic
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Xenic wrote: Nothing happens. TW just sits there like I've done nothing.
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That has got to be aggravating, and I have no idea how to help.
I just created a folder in RAM, Unarced TW into that folder, started TW from RAM, , , , and it had my personal bookmarks ready to go from the one on HD. Hmmmm(?)
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 21:38:44
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| @Xenic
Ah hah. that seems to be the culprit re Ram:
Some routine questions to see if we can spot anything else so don't get annoyed . Have you checked your .SOBJs from update 2 ? Also whats your block size on the SFS2 partition . Aand what size is the partition ?
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Just checking that each new test was a clean Install of TW or if you copied the TW directory you deleted the currentuserprofile directory. |
I guess you'd call it a fresh install; I'm unarchiving the TW archive to whatever location I'm going to run it from and then starting it from that location. It creates the currentuserprofile directory the first time I run it from a new location.
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I have not been able to get it to run from Ram: once it has to recreate the currentuserprofile directory.If I copy it to ram with this directory in place then it will run. |
Maybe it's the old "space in the device name" problem. Over the years I've had so many programs fail when run from "Ram Disk:" that I have this in my user-startup: C:Relabel RAM: Ram_Disk C:Assign "RAM Disk:" RAM: Try relabeling your "Ram Disk" to "RamDisk" or "Ram_Disk" (i.e. Relabel RAM: RamDisk) and see if it works. |
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 21:50:42
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List of SYS:Sobjs to compare up to update 4
System:> list sort n Emergency_Boot:SObjs/ Directory "Emergency_Boot:SObjs" on Wednesday 22-Feb-12 libao.so 123265 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 15:01:16 libbz2.so 245743 ----rwed 13-Sep-11 17:32:38 > SYS:sobjs/libbz2.so.1.0.4 libbz2.so.1.0.4 245743 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 12:16:42 libc.so 77092 ---arw-d 29-Jun-11 21:28:28 libcairo.so 846024 ---arw-d 07-Apr-10 15:00:04 libcurl-7.16.so 315248 ---arwed 20-Sep-09 00:06:56 libdl.so 68420 ---arw-d 25-Mar-10 12:14:48 libexpat.so 326017 ---arw-d 20-Sep-09 00:06:57 libfontconfig.so 339456 ---arw-d 07-Apr-10 14:57:50 libfreetype.so 656552 ---arw-d 07-Apr-10 14:57:54 libgcc.so 56324 ---arwed 20-Sep-09 00:06:58 libgcov.so 21044 ---arw-d 20-Sep-09 00:06:58 libicudata-3.4.so 8975196 ---arwed 20-Sep-09 00:07:10 libicuuc-3.4.so 1562740 ---arwed 20-Sep-09 00:07:13 libjpeg.so 1167242 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 12:16:30 libogg.so 106449 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 15:01:14 libpixman-1.so 659948 ---arw-d 07-Apr-10 14:57:40 libpng.so 662668 ----rwed 13-Sep-11 17:32:38 > SYS:sobjs/libpng12.so libpng12.so 662668 ---arwed 07-Apr-10 15:03:16 libpthread.so 233456 ---arwed 31-Mar-10 14:23:00 libpython25.so 2045984 ---arw-d 27-Mar-10 21:01:12 libSDL-1.2.so 400668 ---arwed 20-Sep-09 00:07:20 libSDL_gfx.so 72788 ---arwed 20-Sep-09 00:07:20 libsqlite3.so 2721974 ---arwed 22-Mar-10 13:49:44 libssl-0.9.8.so 2312048 ---arwed 20-Sep-09 00:07:24 libstdc++.so 5043417 ---arwed 03-Sep-09 12:53:08 libvorbis.so 222767 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 15:01:14 libvorbisenc.so 1332300 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 15:01:16 libvorbisfile.so 75264 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 15:01:16 libxml2-2.6.so 1686088 ---arw-d 20-Sep-09 00:07:28 libxml2.so 4728163 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 12:53:54 libxslt-1.1.so 277220 ---arwed 20-Sep-09 00:07:29 libxslt.so 982601 ---arwed 09-Sep-09 13:04:34 libz.so 143914 ----rwed 13-Sep-11 17:32:39 > SYS:sobjs/libz.so.1.2.3 libz.so.1 143914 ----rwed 13-Sep-11 17:32:39 > SYS:sobjs/libz.so.1.2.3 libz.so.1.2 143914 ----rwed 13-Sep-11 17:32:39 > SYS:sobjs/libz.so.1.2.3 libz.so.1.2.3 143914 ---arwed 07-Apr-10 15:03:16 37 files - 37M bytes - 77846 blocks used
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 22-Feb-2012 22:32:45
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Maybe it's the old "space in the device name" problem. Over the years I've had so many programs fail when run from "Ram Disk:" that I have this in my user-startup: C:Relabel RAM: Ram_Disk C:Assign "RAM Disk:" RAM: Try relabeling your "Ram Disk" to "RamDisk" or "Ram_Disk" (i.e. Relabel RAM: RamDisk) and see if it works. |
I believe the space in "RAM Disk" was intentionally added to catch out programs that didn't handle spaces in filenames, although that might be an urban myth. Either way it must have helped, as unintentionally testing that a program can open files present on paths containing spaces is pretty easy. I can see why the Friedens might not have copied Firefox to RAM: and tried running it from there though!
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 23-Feb-2012 1:21:49
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| @Mechanic My main issue is rendering speed and scrolling speed. Sometimes when loading pages it becomes completely unresponsive for a while.
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 23-Feb-2012 11:29:10
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Indeed. Thats what beta's are for. Beat out da bugs !!!
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Maybe it's the old "space in the device name" problem. Over the years I've had so many programs fail when run from "Ram Disk:" that I have this in my user-startup: C:Relabel RAM: Ram_Disk C:Assign "RAM Disk:" RAM: Try relabeling your "Ram Disk" to "RamDisk" or "Ram_Disk" (i.e. Relabel RAM: RamDisk) and see if it works. |
I believe the space in "RAM Disk" was intentionally added to catch out programs that didn't handle spaces in filenames, although that might be an urban myth. Either way it must have helped, as unintentionally testing that a program can open files present on paths containing spaces is pretty easy. I can see why the Friedens might not have copied Firefox to RAM: and tried running it from there though!
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 23-Feb-2012 19:10:25
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xenic posted this on amigans, not sure why he didn't post it here. This worked for me, I now have a home page with my owb bookmarks on startup. Need to work on downloads next.
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Here is another work-around for those who can't get bookmarks working. Make your bookmark file your TW homepage like this: 1. Copy your OWB bookmarks.html file to the Timberwolf/CurrentUserProfile directory. 2. Select the TOOLS/OPTIONS menu in TimberWolf. 3. In the Startup block of the General tab enter "file:///CurrentUser:bookmarks.html" as your Home Page. Close the Preferences window. 4. When you restart TImberwolf the bookmark page will be displayed so you can click on a link. 5. When you open a new tab, click the home gadget to open the bookmark page. |
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 23-Feb-2012 21:28:26
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| @ I have been trying a bunch of different things and I can not get the Bookmark This Page function to fail.
I did not try JXFS.
TW won't crank up in 8 bit screen mode.
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 23-Feb-2012 22:02:59
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| @Spectre660 My Sobjs look exactly like the ones you listed in your next message. All my SFS & SFS/02 partitions have a blocksize of 512. The main partition I have tested from is 4GB. Other partitions are smaller.
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 23-Feb-2012 22:46:12
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All standard stuff and smaller Partition size than mine. I am kind of stumped. When I reach this point I resort to booting from my clean Emergency partition to eliminate any third party apps etc. 8096 files Bogg standard Update 4 for Sam + 1 extra file.
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Xenic wrote: @Spectre660 My Sobjs look exactly like the ones you listed in your next message. All my SFS & SFS/02 partitions have a blocksize of 512. The main partition I have tested from is 4GB. Other partitions are smaller.
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 24-Feb-2012 0:31:55
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My Sobjs look exactly like the ones you listed in your next message.
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man checking this Sobjs crap looks like some windows nonsense.. :( |
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 24-Feb-2012 0:46:30
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these are new areas for us too. If we can pin down what else may be causing the Bookmarks issue it will allow all OS 4.1 users to enjoy this release of Timberwolf and may help the Friedens save some time in tracking some problems down.
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My Sobjs look exactly like the ones you listed in your next message.
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man checking this Sobjs crap looks like some windows nonsense.. :( |
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 24-Feb-2012 9:34:05
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As a matter of fact, the only thing we do to "prevent it from being ported to "amiga-like" systems" is that we do not share our specific source code. This goes for a good number of other projects too, some on "amiga-like" systems. To suggest that this is us "doing everything they can" is a narrow-minded point of view |
I disagree. The only valid reason to not make the changes public to the open source code you use is to make it much harder to port the same code to other amiga-like systems and thus I find it anti the amiga-community. You are entitled to make that decision but at least admit that you do it in the hope that Timberwolf will only be available for OS4. The fact that you don't have and know MOS or AROS is irrelevant.
May I contact you guys to see if I can use part of your code to port Firefox to AROS ? Like Fab did help the OWB MUI port to OS4 ?
greets, Staf.
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 24-Feb-2012 10:20:37
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Ah lookie
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Like Fab did help the OWB MUI port to OS4 ? |
Didn't I say it was an Agenda?
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Re: Timberwolf is here!!! Posted on 24-Feb-2012 11:19:03
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Fats wrote: @Rogue I disagree. The only valid reason to not make the changes public to the open source code you use is to make it much harder to port the same code to other amiga-like systems and thus I find it anti the amiga-community.
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This is not true, a programmer can choose to not make his project open source for any other reason too. See Wookiechat or SabreMSN for example: they are not open source, but not because the "fear" of seeing it ported on other Amiga-like platforms too since they have been already ported to them.
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