Surely Amiga community in general became like a soap opera after all that years of waiting, real problem is just all that crapo talks for nothings, trolling or not trolling many "users" just talk and speculate for nothing but almost never use the system for real anymore but they like to add his melodrama to an already difficult situation ...

People that really use the system in general just use it and try to help out or develop somethings concrete like in any other small or not small IT community, instead Amiga community is divided in factions, crap useless retrogamers, always hatred and full of fanboys ..

It's not a mistery that the best forum to talk and help in general are only some specific area of this community such the dev forums, certain part of Amigans.net (when we talk about development in general) AROS-Exec forum (mostly with ppls that talk about technical things) or certain section of the MorphOS development

So yes in my opinion the "real community" are that, only some people that in a way or another will use his system and try to help out, all the rest is only a damage ..

Then of course even the current holders of the Amiga's development have their faults and responsabiity, this for sure but the day when they will go than the entire Amiga will dies

Would be nice if one day the Amiga community would look like other small but industrious community, look at the Haiku world for example ..

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but 50% of this community should die in pain, thats for sure

i will leave to the moderators, to decide about this "bit"

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@kas1e

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Even girls and old womans do not discuss such a soap opereas, and do not make fuzz from nothing.

Like wishing someone would "die in pain" because of something he wrote on an internet forum?

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I for myself hate amiga community as well.

Of course, but at least you have really valid reasons for your hatred, while the others are just insane, trolling assholes.

I'm so glad we have a sane person like you to inform us about our mental disorder.

@kas1e

However, you should be fair and condemn also the company that fed this type of "fanboyism" aka users masturbating over broken and beta AOS versions for ten years.

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@kas1e

It really sucks that some people only seem to see the negatives. Simon Archer has developed touch screen drivers for OS4, AmiUpdate and CodeBench amongst other things but people only seem to want to remember Rigo the man who said something nasty once. Why are they surprised when people get pi$$ed off with them.

By the way I've spoken to Simon at one of the Amiga shows I've been at and he was friendly and helpful and seemed a genuinely decent bloke.

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@Rob

Yes, Simon is a nice chap, and if he's had a bad day and posted something he perhaps shouldn't have done on a forum, it doesn't change that.

However, I would say that anybody who lends money to any company should not be expecting to see it again. If a company is requesting money from individuals like some sort of charity, they are obviously in financial difficulty. The chances of it ever being paid back is minimal. As an extra aside, I would trust Amiga-related companies least of all!

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OH MY GOD!! Someone, call the police, there's a devloper who's discontent!!! Discontent I tell you! Its a freaking tragedy, how will we survive?

Seriously though it's no big deal so far as Im concerned. Individual has problems with parent company,.... its hardly a first.

Wake me when something interesting happens. Developer grows gills and 6 breasts,..... now that's a meeting Id go to.

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@ShadowSun

I think part of the issue is that Amigans are so fierce and emotional about their favorite computer - be it Classic, AmigaOne, Aros or Genesi. You have to figure, the only die hard Amigans left have been distilled down to the MOST intensely focused group left - that is why we remain Amigans!
So why would we not expect to see a lot of heated tempers and emotional disputes among and between the remaining core groups of Amiga followers?
Hey - lets just enjoy our computer of choice and take it easy everyone! Simon has developed some great stuff for the Amiga and I hope he has not become too tainted by whatever happened to toss his machine into the trash and start saluting the Microsoft flag!

Scott

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@fishy_fis

so is Hyperion financing AmigaOS development by "borrowing" money from AOS devs? That would be crazy if true, especially if they're not paying it back...

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@WolfToTheMoon

No idea, but that seems to be the suggested idea.
Cant say I really care either way, it's nothing to do with me and doesnt change my interest or fun in any way, shape, or form.

As I said already, wake me when something interesting happens. Things involving deformities, breasts, or zombies would qualify.

@WolfToTheMoon

Hyperion haven't borrowed any money from me, or asked for any. I don't know the specifics of Simon's situation, though.

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You would have spotted the news already, if you browsed moobunny regularly.

The problem with reading the moo (if you can get past the truely nasty language used) is that you have no way of knowing if it is true, or whether it is the ravings of some loony (in general a very high chance it is the latter IMHO).

However, as the moo seems to mainly attract people with a real hatred of anything Amiga (of one or all flavours), it does say something about people who admit to reading it

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ChrisH wrote: The problem with reading the moo (if you can get past the truely nasty language used) is that you have no way of knowing if it is true, or whether it is the ravings of some loony (in general a very high chance it is the latter IMHO). However, as the moo seems to mainly attract people with a real hatred of anything Amiga (of one or all flavours), it does say something about people who admit to reading it

And to be able to judge what is said on moo you have to read it in the first place to make such a well informed opinion, so which category do you put yourself in...

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I read the moo a few times, but I do not read it regularly, and especially do not bother these days. (Sigh, why on earth do I have to explain something so obvious? Either you think I am stupid & cannot be bothered to work out an alternative (more likely) explanation, or else you are just trying to wind me up.)

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And you guys wondered why I got banned and post locked so many times?

For the last 6 or 7 years you have never been restricted for speaking the truth, but for breaking our ToS.

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@ChrisH

Actually I read Franko's response as nothing but tongue in cheek.
I thought it was pretty obvious.

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ChrisH wrote: @Franko I read the moo a few times, but I do not read it regularly, and especially do not bother these days. (Sigh, why on earth do I have to explain something so obvious? Either you think I am stupid & cannot be bothered to work out an alternative (more likely) explanation, or else you are just trying to wind me up.)

Sigh... at least Fishy gets it...

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For the last 6 or 7 years you have never been restricted for speaking the truth, but for breaking our ToS.

Hmm not really factual. I got banned in 2004 for saying bad things about Amiga inc and Bill McEwen. (funny that you guys all hate him now) and thats just one occasion. Back then, I was banned for speaking truth all the time. Things have gotten a lot better here as people have woken up to an extent.

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I got banned in 2004

Seriously... Did you not read what I wrote?

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For the last 6 or 7 years

This is when I and AmiGR joined the crew, to my knowledge no one has been banned for speaking the truth since then... 2004 is 8 years ago...

So yes, it was very factual.

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