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Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 8:24:12
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Asking turkey against or pro Thanksgiving Day? The answer would be like 8 core 2 GHz CPU, price 100$, OS and VATincluded

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Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 10:14:17
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I would wish for:
200eur+AOS4 = 1Ghz dualcore minimalistic computer with RadeonHD, audio via RadeonHD, 512M RAM, SATA
500eur+AOS4 = 1.5Ghz quad core, radeonHD, Free PCIe, 2GB, SATA, xcore expansion socket
900eur+AOS4 = 2.2Ghz Dualcore, radeonHD, several free PCIe, 4GB, 4xSATA, xcore...
1900eur+AOS4=1.8Ghz 24core, etc...



If xena is to stay, it would be nice if one could use xcore expansions from XMOS etc... (example)

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wawa 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 11:19:28
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@wawa 4 X1000! I wouldn´t expect that much in Poland (for comparison: around same number of ALL OS4 users in the Czech Republic).

i remember youve mentioned it. lets assume poland is an average larger european country when it comes to x1k user base. therebare likely twenty such countries altogether, since never heard of os4 users from latvia, white russia, monaco, lichtenstein or ukraine. among the countries in question there is countries like chech where the numbers are lower and there might be some countries like germany where its higher. add to that possible few users in usa, canada, australia and new zealand. all that taken into account the number of x1k users doesnt seem any close to 400. its still seems more like 100 at best.

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wawa 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 11:28:21
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@mr2

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There is 25% more ... Actually 5xX1000

im sure you will know best. congrats for recruiting another user in last half a year. but honestly, do you really think that matters? you can count the user base on your fingers, much like the homemade amiga 68k clones, arcade, natami, gb1000, is this how it was supposed to be?

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Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
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@wawa

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all that taken into account the number of x1k users doesnt seem any close to 400. its still seems more like 100 at best.

Ah, no, it's more like 437.

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wawa 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 12:06:26
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lol. if you prefer to think so. being x1k user yourself, no wonder.

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Rob 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 14:20:59
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@wawa

This what I've read/heard.

Beta production was supposed to be 100 or was it 125.

At Amiwest Trevor said that a production run was anywhere between 100 and 200 units. IIRC.

3 runs (including beta) must be a minimum 300 units in total. Do you think Trevor tries to mislead us?

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olegil 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 14:23:33
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@Rob

Stop feeding the troll.

Conversation so far:
"why no real number?"
"the number is x"
"you must be lying, why no real number?"
"the number is now y"
"stop with the lying, why no real number?"
etc.

(edit: silly me using the same number x twice )

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ddni 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 14:31:46
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@olegil

People!
Watch this video of Trevor answering your questions.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=L2kkXLOeFLg

Start at 25:15. Lots of good info follows.

At 27:47 the batch number is stated as between 100 and 300 per batch. There have been 3 batches. ( 1,2,3 or FC, 1,2 depending on who you ask )

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olegil 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
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@ddni

What's the point of reposting fact when wawa believes everyone's a liar?

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ddni 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 14:37:08
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@olegil

Nah wawa believes nothing, not even himself. Best to ignore the deranged...

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BCP 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 14:48:40
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@wawa

"add to that possible few users in usa, canada, australia and new zealand. all that taken into account the number of x1k users doesnt seem any close to 400. its still seems more like 100 at best."

Based upon Hyperion's Message Board's registered members there at least 15 members in the U.S. that own AmigaOne X1000s, thats considerablely more than you are suggesting. Additionally, its been stated several times by Trevor & others that there are at least 100 X1000 beta testor owners.

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wawa 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 15:07:13
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questioning things is the integral part of reasoning. believeing is not. i prefer to trust whereit has been earned rather than religiously believeing, thats how i am.

what concerns trevors speech, i have seen it before. it puzzles me a little, im far from acussing him not telling truth. perhaps they really build batches of hundred boards. but it doesnt necessarily mean, x1k must be released in such batches. perhaps there is some problem with assembling full systems by amigakit and therefore not all interested have been delivered yet. where are the users otherwise. whats the point of buying such machine and not partcipating in the community, when you need the community to solve problems in the firstplace. given the buyers have not bougt that one for storage.

and what concerns chaos figure. why, i can be proven wrong if he backs it up.

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wawa 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 15:10:48
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@BCP

and what is the all in all x1k owners count on that page?

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ddni 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 15:11:41
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@wawa

How could you have missed the obvious?
NASA have bought up 300 machines in readiness for Mars colonisation. Those radiaton hardened PA6t are ideal!

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wawa 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 15:27:25
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@ddni

300? why not make it 300000? is it, that you always need to ressort to jokes to dodge any serious answer?

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SlayeR__ 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 15:44:53
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@wawa

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questioning things is the integral part of reasoning. believeing is not. i prefer to trust whereit has been earned rather than religiously believeing, thats how i am.

what concerns trevors speech, i have seen it before. it puzzles me a little, im far from acussing him not telling truth. perhaps they really build batches of hundred boards. but it doesnt necessarily mean, x1k must be released in such batches. perhaps there is some problem with assembling full systems by amigakit and therefore not all interested have been delivered yet. where are the users otherwise. whats the point of buying such machine and not partcipating in the community, when you need the community to solve problems in the firstplace. given the buyers have not bougt that one for storage.


In the first paragraph it starts out so well, and then in the second paragraph you invent a reason, why you believe there isn't so many that Aone X1000s sold as MB's made, in an effort to explain how Trevor's number can be correct, remember absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 15:52:52
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@wawa

Simply because jokes seem to suit any conversation with you.

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olegil 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 15:53:43
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@wawa

It's hard to discuss anything with you without either laughing or crying. Typical trolling, yet somehow we just cannot resist rebutting you.

If you could manage to be civilized in a discussion without always trying to stir shit up, you might get more respect.

Personally, I am also curious as to what the number of A1 X1000 owners is, but I don't believe the world turns around me and therefore I accept that for now I won't know.

Here's an idea: Why don't you try the carrot approach and bribe the number out of Trevor? Your stick approach has been failing for quite some time now.

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wawa 
Re: New Amigaone X1000 in 2013?
Posted on 25-Feb-2013 16:42:48
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@SlayeR__

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In the first paragraph it starts out so well, and then in the second paragraph you invent a reason, why you believe there isn't so many that Aone X1000s sold as MB's made, in an effort to explain how Trevor's number can be correct, remember absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


well, point taken, im trying to put the available evidence in accordance with trevors hint. mea culpa..

but remember he didnt said there was 400 units. he cant be made responsible of delivering wrong information. but the fans may be accused of mis-interpreting it. good to see the fans dont claim there was 1200 units according to the hint, apparently reason gains some ground.

and no, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but i guess you will know that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

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