@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: They are supported by the o.s.! That's the point. Maybe it is too late for me, I still don´t get it. PCI (or PCIe) is also supported in AmigaOS (like Zorro).

How? The Amiga o.s. only supported the Autoconfig protocol, so only Zorro cards (which implement it to let their resources to be seen and correctly installed and initialized by the o.s.).

@cdimauro

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How? The Amiga o.s. only supported the Autoconfig protocol, so only Zorro cards (which implement it to let their resources to be seen and correctly installed and initialized by the o.s.).

What AmigaOS version you have in mind?

@pavlor

But the IBM PC is not Intel's platform, despite using their CPU architecture, right ?

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@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: How? The Amiga o.s. only supported the Autoconfig protocol, so only Zorro cards (which implement it to let their resources to be seen and correctly installed and initialized by the o.s.). What AmigaOS version you have in mind?

Since I've written "Amiga o.s.", well, the one up to 3.x.

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But the IBM PC is not Intel's platform, despite using their CPU architecture, right ?

By early 1990s "IBM PC" was less IBM and more and more Intel platform.

@Trewq

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Trewq wrote: @pavlor But the IBM PC is not Intel's platform, despite using their CPU architecture, right ?

No, it was an IBM's Platform, until the clones made the "IBM compatibility" just a legacy label. After that, the PC "standard" evolved independently, and many companies introduced different Technologies.

PCI was introduced by Intel, but there was also the famous "VESA local bus" (I don't remember the inventor now, sorry).

@pavlor

Yeah, poor IBM

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@cdimauro

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Since I've written "Amiga o.s.", well, the one up to 3.x.

I see you use "Amiga o.s.", but I never understood your semantics. AmigaOS is AmigaOS - be it 1.x, 2.x, 3.x or 4.x. Why impose such artificial version limit?

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also the famous "VESA local bus" (I don't remember the inventor now, sorry).

VESA?

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@cdimauro

Googled it and.. well.. it was VESA

Always called it the Very long bus, the VLB connector looks allot like PCI now that I take a look at it again.

Another one that came up was EISA by "the gang of nine" to dwarf IBM's Micro Channel architecture.

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@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: Since I've written "Amiga o.s.", well, the one up to 3.x. I see you use "Amiga o.s.", but I never understood your semantics. AmigaOS is AmigaOS - be it 1.x, 2.x, 3.x or 4.x. Why impose such artificial version limit?

Because up to the Commodore bankrupt there never existed the AmigaOS label. The o.s was called "the Amiga o.s.", or Workbench (which is the more common name used by people) or even Kickstart.

The AmigaOS label was a new thing introduced later, by successive owners of the Commodore/Amiga assets.

@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: also the famous "VESA local bus" (I don't remember the inventor now, sorry). VESA?

Yes, that one.

@Trewq

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Trewq wrote: @cdimauro Googled it and.. well.. it was VESA Always called it the Very long bus, the VLB connector looks allot like PCI now that I take a look at it again. Another one that came up was EISA by "the gang of nine" to dwarf IBM's Micro Channel architecture.

Yes. IBM tried to close again its PCs introducing some proprietary Technologies, like the MCI-Micro Channel Interface, the PS/2, and the MCGA & VGA. But at end it failed, because the clone market was too much wide.

@cdimauro

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Because up to the Commodore bankrupt there never existed the AmigaOS label.

My research of old manuals, magazines and usenet discussion shows rising usage of "Amiga OS" (even in Commodore marketing materials in Germany) in late 80s / early 90s, never saw "the Amiga o.s.", except your posts.

@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: Because up to the Commodore bankrupt there never existed the AmigaOS label. My research of old manuals, magazines and usenet discussion shows rising usage of "Amiga OS" (even in Commodore marketing materials in Germany) in late 80s / early 90s, never saw "the Amiga o.s.", except your posts.

I did a quick search, and I found this quote from Byte magazine: https://books.google.de/books?id=DVEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=byte+magazine+amiga&source=bl&ots=r3jR6o5D6a&sig=QNWCk21AuAofJZWsxVzd3Mjwj8c&hl=it&sa=X&ei=afNDVc23IMGraZCMgeAH&ved=0CEsQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=byte%20magazine%20amiga&f=false

As you can see, it calls the Amiga operating system (long version).

Can you provide some links to the material you cited? I'll take a look at it omorrow, since I'm going to sleep now.

@cdimauro

I've found this one example from .INFO magazine 1991 which called it AmigaOS

http://www.blazemonger.com/articles/unix1.html

Of course, it isn't official

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Have u tried to download the PI version. ? (it is more like a bad joke!) The Raspberry Pi Version is only available for registered users. To get registered you need to qualify yourself with one of the following options: 1. Buy something from ares-shop.de or prove that you bought a AresOne from somewhere else 2. USE our sd-card service on ebay 3. Donate at east 10 US € to any AROS related bounty on www.power2people.org or prove that you did already. 4. Or buy a ARES ArmedOne :)

You care enough to keep asking questions about a new Amiga, but donating 10 measly dollars to help AROS development is unthinkable and makes it a bad joke? I don't understand that.

Also remember that Aeros is not AROS itself - it's an AROS distro that makes use of Linux to run on the Pi. The native Raspberry Pi port of AROS is still in development and will, of course, be open-source. So you can enjoy their hard work and not give them one penny for it if that really makes you happy!

Chris

@cdimauro

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As you can see, it calls the Amiga operating system (long version).

Yes, Amiga Operating System (or Amiga operating system), Amiga OS and less frequently even AmigaOS are common - but NO "Amiga o. s.".

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Can you provide some links to the material you cited?

For start comp.sys.amiga (and derivatives) - you may find these in Google groups - just search eg. ""Amiga OS" 2.0"

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since I'm going to sleep now.

Me too.

@ Everyone:

This applies not only to this thread, but all threads.

QUIT THE NAME CALLING.

Debate, disagree, whinge, whine and sulk away, but stop with the personal attacks. I've just wiped some ARs out because both sides seem to be at it, but the next ones will be actioned.

Play nice (and that includes you Scotsmen!).

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