@Leo

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Leo wrote: What do you want to do? Who do you want to target ? What? Did any market research? I don't think you hire programmers to do something you have no idea of...

Don't worry Leo, now everything is on the way. (when Amiga is not target any more).
I found support in PC world, and this people (2 guys) don't care If I use my Amigas or ZX81 if graphics is good and useful.
So we will see, but its looks that I also have a good ideas for games.

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then gratulation to your new platform

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @Condor then gratulation to your new platform

Thank You Olaf.
Best regards.

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@Condor

BTW I have the opposite idea... to use PC-Software for creating graphics, sound, leveldesign and so on and put them together (using Hollywood). But still much too early to say something.

@smartroad

Right on.

@Thorham

Native OS4 editors I've tried don't tend to have it. I have a GoldED demo that might but would need to invesigate that.

@Hypex

Assumed AOS2/3, sorry about that. As for GoldEd, seems to be a good editor if you can deal with the non-standard editing model.

@Toaks

Amazing Amiga projects destroyed by trolls on the forum????

@smartroad

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The native port seems to have stopped being developed.

7 hours ago schulz Support dynamic ARM_PERIIOBASE as requred by rpi2master commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)
7 hours ago schulz Don't flush caches when waiting for free MailBox slot... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)
7 hours ago schulz Don't use magic numbers. Use defines instead (ARM_PERII... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)
32 hours ago schulz Wait for SerOut ready after printing an additional... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)
32 hours ago schulz bootstrap enables caches for speed up. Supports rpi2... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)
32 hours ago schulz add metatarget for generating .img file. commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)
32 hours ago schulz Fix cache flushes in VC MailBox (can't clean and invali... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)
32 hours ago schulz Support rpi2, fix sending CR after LF (wait for serial... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)
35 hours ago mazze Use AROS' autodoc style commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz zip)

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http://repo.or.cz/w/AROS.git

@Toaks

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There's been other amazing projects over the years which have been destroyed because of trolls on forum and so on, working on something major and getting the negativity from this community as we call it is one of the key reasons why we are stuck with so little progress.

amazing projects destroyed by trolls? thats an amazing discovery by itself! care to elaborate?

@Toaks

question from me too

what "amazing projects" stopped because of "trolling on forums". If someone really cares about it he or she does not really stand behind the idea.

@NutsAboutAmiga

The differences between the existing AmigaOS and Linux are immaterial - that's my whole point.

And invariably, these discussions always go back to preserving the status quo. Why?

If people want to run applications developed decades ago they have existing resources and emulation available to them.

It's time to start again and ditch the baggage.

@NutsAboutAmiga

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I don't know if your thinking of datatypes, well datatypes are actually cool, but actually they have not been kept up to date, so things like Alfa blending is not supported in PNG, so instead of datatypes its a lot easier to use libpng that is a Linux picture library from the start.

WTF? Alpha support has been in the picture datatype support since so long I'm not sure if it was even pre OS4 (OS3.9?) Where do you think the alpha support in button gadgets coms from?

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@Thorham

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Quote: Hypex wrote: Quote: Like functions I need such as lassoing a block of text? So I can cut out a square or a block of tabs? Or even use to add or remove tabs from select lines? Such a simple yet useful idea, I would have thought Amiga editors would have had it years ago. Especially with an IDE. In Amiga text editors you do that with column block marking. FrexxEd, CygnusEd, and probably some others have this feature. Have been using it for many years.

Codebench does it too.

I think some users have got so indoctrinated by the 'amiga can't do this, can't that crowd', that they forget to look for what it *can* do.

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@OlafS25

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question from me too what "amazing projects" stopped because of "trolling on forums". If someone really cares about it he or she does not really stand behind the idea.

You vastly under estimate the negative impact of some trolling, not everybodies skin is as thick.

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@Thorham

No you're right. I was taking in a 68K context. But then shifted to my modern OS4 experience where I have tested less native editors.

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broadblues wrote: I think some users have got so indoctrinated by the 'amiga can't do this, can't that crowd', that they forget to look for what it *can* do.

Amigas can't do everything, but I don't have an Amiga for everything, and people should realize this principle. On the other hand, it sucks when there are things that a 68k Amiga could do, but won't, because of lack of software. The difference between what we have and what's possible isn't small.

@broadblues

I can only talk about my personal experience (and I assume that this is the case for others too). People critisizing are often more loud than the people liking it. If I had not stand behind what I personal do I would propably have given up. I would differentiate between "critisisizing" and "trolling". Trolling would be just talking down someones ideas just for the fun of destroy it or feel "superior". I have seen that behavior now and then too but often people just critisized or gave their opinion and people reacted thinskinned (expecially if the person critsizing is known to support a competing platform). It would be better if people would not react on a personal level but try to give evidence.

If you for example say AmigaOS is vastly superior to AROS or 3.1.-3.9. then I personal would be interested to hear why and where and then you can discuss about it. You must not necessarily agree at the end but it is more constructive to talk this way then just say it is superior and then no further comments.

@OlafS25

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then I personal would be interested to hear why and where and then you can discuss about it.

Then we end up in off topic debate that totally derails the topic and destroy the subject the topic is intended for.

This practical topic is about crowd funding, bounties, how to make it possible for developers to possible turn this into a business. How can we get the funding needed to speed up software development? Not just do it in our spear time when ever that might be.

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WTF? Alpha support has been in the picture datatype support since so long

Well the code I have tried has not worked, I will need to take some time trying what Hans suggested.

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