@Hillbillylitre

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But that is a twisted mind, so what you think is an Amiga is just a very crappy PC.

Not really, you completely missed the point.

We'll discuss this further with PM's

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@newlight

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newlight wrote: Wake up screaming. When a new Playstation 2 emulator for the Amiga? Thank you

When A-Eon decides to develop a motherboard that's more powerful than a PS2.

@tlsom
And do you try to run Saturn emulator via VirtualPC on Quad G5?

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@Seiya

Nope ... i use it on OSX or on LinuxPPC


About Libretro just now build on LinuxPPC

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54 core(s) successfully processed: 2048 3dengine 4do bluemsx catsfc dosbox fb_alpha fceumm fmsx gambatte gpsp handy meteor nestopia nxengine o2em prboom prosystem quicknes snes9x snes9x_next stella tgbdual tyrquake vba_next vbam vecx virtualjaguar bsnes_accuracy bsnes_cplusplus98 bsnes_mercury_accuracy dinothawr emux_chip8 emux_gb emux_sms genesis_plus_gx gw hatari lutro mame078 mednafen_gba mednafen_lynx mednafen_ngp mednafen_pce_fast mednafen_pcfx mednafen_psx mednafen_snes mednafen_supergrafx mednafen_vb mednafen_wswan picodrive scummvm yabause pcsx_rearmed

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15 core(s) failed: desmume bsnes_balanced bsnes_performance bsnes_mercury_balanced bsnes_mercury_performance emux_nes fuse mame mupen64plus stonesoup ffmpeg ppsspp bnes testgl test

Before was more fail!

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@Hillbillylitre

The OS3.0 on my A1200 is incompatible with the OS1.3 on my A500, so what's the problem here? OS3.0 apps don't work on OS1.3. OS4.0 apps dopn't work on OS3.0. The machines are different but the logic is the same. I don't expect these kinds of things to be backwards compatible.

And no other AmigaOS did that you say ? I think not!

Now you make another point about AmigaOS but you then talk of hardware, not the OS. FWIW, the 68K and the PPC can't run at the same time, it has to context switch between them in shared memory. When PPC code is running it's not running under AmigaOS.

And another thing, OS4 doesn't emulate an Amiga, it emulates the 68K CPU and only when needed for old apps. OS4 can run perfectly fine without emulation. The Amiga hardware is still there to bang onto.

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@Hypex

The Amige 1200 is quite compatible with the Amiga 500, if not I hadn't bought the A1200 a long time ago. I wanted to use most of the programs from my 500 on my 1200. I still have a directory on my 1200 dated back to 1990 before i bought my twelvehundred...

It's a different situation today almost 25 years later. Now you can get an inexpensive X86 PC, or even better use the X86 machine you already have to emulate everything from the eighties and nineties with an up to date emulator unlike the emulator you need and use on that imaginary Amiga.

Everything on one machine, including everything new.


And by the way, I can see you are still doing benchmarking of an ancient game from 1999 called Quake III. Your numbers are so low on your imaginary overpriced Amiga machines it is almost scary see....



So the silly overpriced unsupported and miserable AmigaOne/OS4 nonsense I would never had even if I got it for free. An X86 PC is enough but if you want the Amiga compatible Hardware is a real Commodore Amiga what you want in addition...

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@newlight

Let me get this straight... You want to emulate (poorly) a games console you can still easily buy for less than 30 UKP on a computer that costs 15 to 100 times the price?

Just buy a PS2.

On classics some emulation made sense, eg. emulating a mac running OS7.x at TWICE the speed of the official hardware available then and at half the price.

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@Amiboy

Not only that, little thought was gone into it.
Even the slowest Sam 440 has more processing power than the PS2.

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@Trewq

The problem is not only the power...
is needed a jit cpu emulation of ps2 for ppc cpu classes and a newst 3d library for AmigaOS
right now warp3d are like directx 5 we need at last directx 9c for good emulators.

and when we will have gallium on amigaos will be more simple do many emulators because all emulators ported to Xbox 360 will be more simple converted to AmigaOS because same cpu (ppc)

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@tlosm

Totally

While it may not have as large library as the PS2, I think the Gamecube/Wii is a perfect fit for
AmigaOS 4 machines. (of course, with more modern 3D API)

I remember the authors of the popular x86 Dolphin emulator saying that porting to PPC was problematic due to it being little endian.

But the authors being young lads with probably no experience porting programs over architecture I don't know for certain if it actually is really that much of a problem, but I think the problem would more be scraping what is usable of Dolphin since its Windows roots probably isn't very portable.

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@Trewq

I think its more about the PPC market is microscopical small. Why spend time on developing for a platform nobody uses?

The Dolphin Emu run just fine here on my five year old x86 with a Radeon HD6800. 50/60fps in 1080p with AA and AF, much better than the gamecube.

No problem emulating PPC on X86, the dolphin emulator can even run on multiple cores and the 64bit version gives even some more speed boost.

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@Trewq

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But the authors being young lads with probably no experience porting programs over architecture I don't know for certain if it actually is really that much of a problem

If you're not certain about something, maybe it's better not to comment and assume anything about other peoples skills? ;)

@Hillbillylitre

Well, the issue is that we need to visualize the emulated powerpc, other vice emulating a powerpc on a powerpc should be pretty fast.

We can't use the ppc to x86 jit in dolphin, and so writing a the emulation code to run powerpc opcodes is what is needed. I'm not sure things like KVM or other vitalization techniques can be applied on AmigaOS.

I love to be able to emulate wii, MacOS8/MacOS9 and PowerPC linux distributions.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

can be a change have kvm inside the amiga kickstart (who will do it)

the problem will be have a good programmer implement the kvm ppc on the emulators
if kvm will work you will be able to have all the ppc console and machine running inside the amigaos window loosing only the 15% of the cpu host power.

thanks to kvm we will have many programs professional running in parallel on amigaos ... like final cut or logic pro...
but if i good remember is really difficult have mol or qemu run on amigaos

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@ferrels
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When A-Eon decides to develop a motherboard that's more powerful than a PS2.

Riiiiiiight.... PS2 = 300MHz CPU, 148MHz GPU, 32MB RAM, ...

I suggest you owe A-Eon an apology for this ridiculous comment.

They are investing heavily in hardware and software. Their choices in CPU are entirely logical taking into account what is available on the market.

Trevor deserves major kudos for investing heavily into the Amiga marketplace. I don't think he will be seeing a profit anytime soon - he is taking a long-term view on things which is commendable.

Back to your cave, troll.

@gregthecanuck

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@Britelite

Oh, they're way better than me

I commonly see programs from x86 ported to PPC on OS4depot, tho some of them are SDL/QT based, and seeing that PC's are mostly x86 nowadays I assume that there isn't allot of opportunity to experience porting over architecture in the mainstream market.

Not having experience in one thing doesn't mean that you're a bad programmer.

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@Trewq

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I commonly see programs from x86 ported to PPC on OS4depot

But you do know that the programs might have been originally written with portability in mind, which makes porting a lot easier?

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Not having experience in one thing doesn't mean that you're a bad programmer.

There's still no reason not to believe in their statement.