@TRIPOS

The reason Jupp3 had problems understanding that message is because it was never said,... never implied, never alluded to, etc., etc.

Just a construct of a lack of applying any thought to what was actually said. And elaborated. Ad nauseam.

You know how things go here. People like to grab the wrong stick and run with it just to argue semantics. Even when they know they're running with the wrong stick.

p.s. Your response to tlosm cracked me up. One of the more entertaining posts Ive seen here for a while.

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@TRIPOS

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@Yssing

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Yssing wrote: So even after Helge has been banned from most forums, he still continues to cause a fuss. The man is an idiot and is doing everything he can to miscredit AmigaOS, Hyperion and so on..

Honestly IMHO his defence on his blog site seems quite normal, with syntetic topics and organic discussion, with nor babbling ranting neither accusations to anyone. In the least it has a sense. Why people here accused him of molesting insane fanboysm?

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@tlosm

HD3000 vs gtx7800 would have been more apt.

HD3000 barely qualifies a gpu.

My i5 AROS box gets around 560 fps in Dark Places. A much more advanced Quake engine. And that's on AROS. Completely single core. No offloading OS, etc. to other cores, less efficient drivers, etc.

Are you trying to pull the wool over other peoples eyes, or do you actually believe your own rubbish?

Funny thing is just a week or so ago you seemed well aware of the fact that comparisons need to be like for like when it suited your agenda. Have you suddenly forgotten that? (rhetorical)

I won´t comment x86 vs PPC etc., as AmigaOS4 is PPC-only, you have no choice anyway - BUT:

@tlosm

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tlosm wrote: @TRIPOS my quad g5 10 years machine can today play a race with an i5 2012 i will make tests with i3 laptops 2015 just im courious about.

Sorry, but this argument is really beyond reality (to stay polite). There is no way that your QuadG5 (or X5000) is faster than any i5. I even doupt that the G5 can compete with faster Core2Duo-machines.

But as I bought a i5-PC for AROS recently (its an used HP 8200 Elite with i5 2400 from around 2012/13), i am happy to provide a Blender-benchmark.

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@fishy_fis

probably you didnt see the last video...
and yes you true darkplace is more efficient but sorry if i noticed you darkplace on osx isnt much slower than your aros i5 on one core of my g5 quad on old gpu from 2005

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@tlosm

and even if that proves what?

@AP

good browsing.

http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/tlosm/library/BenchmarkG5?sort=3&page=1

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@OlafS25

MacMini Radeon I5 2.5 radeon HD 6xxx vs Quad G5 Quadro Fx 4500 (2004) ..

dont prove nothing only what i write some posts before .... my G5 quad can race well with a more modern mac I5

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@tlosm

you take one example

that is not proofing anything in my view

if your thesis is right that hardware from 2005 beats or at least competes with new hardware from 2012 and later hardware devs would have made a bad job in recent years

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@OlafS25

point of view

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@tlosm

you basically say that hardware developers at Intel and other companies are fools

I say I do not believe that

@OlafS25

not say this, i write my g5 quad 2006 can race without problem with an i5 mac 2012

edit and i make really much test ... imovie rendering too... where the quad need less time compared the mini for render a 1080p video

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@tlosm

Quote:

tlosm wrote: @OlafS25 MacMini Radeon I5 2.5 radeon HD 6xxx vs Quad G5 Quadro Fx 4500 (2004) .. dont prove nothing only what i write some posts before .... my G5 quad can race well with a more modern mac I5

As I said before, I will do a blender-benchmark and we will see If your argument is valid.

Sure a different GPU can be faster in an older system, but you were talking of beating an i5 in genral, and that´s nonsens. A blender-benchmark is a good test for raw CPU-speed...

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@AP

try maxon cinema benchmark old version 10.5 where you can compare with my shots in the link
blender are really different from linux to osx and version by version.

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@AP
edit:
cinebench 10.5

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@tlosm

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tlosm wrote: @OlafS25 not say this, i write my g5 quad 2006 can race without problem with an i5 mac 2012

Even that´s not true. Here are some Geekbench-results of Apple computers:

https://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2008/02/mac-performance-february-2008/

Quad G5 (Power Mac G5 (Late 2005)
Dual Dual-Core PowerPC G5 @ 2.5 GHz) scores with 3197

https://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2012/11/imac-215-late-2012-benchmarks/

Even the MacMini from (late) 2012 scores with 6615!
iMac with i3 (Dualcore) from 2011 scores with 6503!

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@itix

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I only have found unofficial numbers but the best unofficial reference I found is 3500 to Linux and 1500 to MorphOS (in 2006, including Pegasos 1 and 2).

Could you link such reference, please?

Yet, cca 3000 boards for one platforms would be much better outcome than 1500+1500 for two.

@tlosm

Quote:

tlosm wrote: @AP edit: cinebench 10.5

I will try, but I don´t think, it will make you happy.

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@AP

dont worry, let me know what i5 did you test
when i will have spare money will compare with a 2080

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