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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 1:07:10
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| ATI cards does not require +100W per card. Less than half of nVidia actually, with almost the same speed. The difference in testing was less than 5% between their best cards. Also the nVidia cards are hotter, making them worse putting in small MicroATX cases without serious cooling
This is because NVidia has put alot more inside their chips which makes the die larger. They also go at a much higher frequency, which also makes them hotter.
This like comparing Intel Pentium 4 with PowerPC Intel Pentium 4 are bigger, faster, hotter and comsumes ####loads of power. PowerPC's are smaller, a bit slower, cooler and consumes less than half the power. Look at Intel, they have hit the roof with Pentium 4. It isn't that easy making +4GHz CPU's ehh?
My view on this is ATI's cards are smarter designs and a way better choice for Amiga. Speed & size isn't everything! You have to know how to use it to
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 3:50:11
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| @Samwel Refer to http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040504/ati-x800-09.html
They are both power hungry (referring to ATI-R X800 and NV 6800).
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This like comparing Intel Pentium 4 with PowerPC Intel Pentium 4 are bigger, faster, hotter and comsumes ####loads of power. PowerPC's are smaller, a bit slower, cooler and consumes less than half the power. Look at Intel, they have hit the roof with Pentium 4. It isn't that easy making +4GHz CPU's ehh? |
Factor in PowerPC 970FX@ 2.5Ghz. The problem with PowerPC 7447A is it's scaling ability to 2.5Ghz. Throwning 970FX's 100watts into a PowerPC 7447A = dead PowerPC 7447A.
Reference. http://www-03.ibm.com/technology/power/newsletter/august2004/article7.html
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 4:01:05
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Refer to http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20457 ATI does the SLI** trick without the bridge.
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 13:30:08
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It's funny that everybody makes it sound like NVidia invented SLI when the technology was originally available with Voodoo 2 graphics cards, and works internally on Voodoo 5's.Last edited by Rogue on 18-Jan-2005 at 01:36 PM.
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 15:18:20
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Work has already started on Nova, and it will be very similar to DX9 with shader-centric design and high-level shading language. |
Isn't low level language enough ? |
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 15:42:11
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Isn't low level language enough ? |
That's a good question, but the answer is "no". Actually writing complex vertex shaders in assembler is a lot of work. And like assembler in general, it has two major drawbacks - lack of readability and hardware specific.
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 18:43:09
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**ATI's technobabble for SLI is "AMR" or "ATI Multi Rendering". |
Vapor.......
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ATI is working hard to catch up with Nvidia in the SLI game, and it will try to make its chipset and drivers ready for launch as soon as possible. This is expected sometime in Q2 2005. |
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 18:45:40
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Sure, I'd like to write a 3D driver for that, but so far they didn't want to release any information. So if you can change that... |
Is it done yet ??
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 19:03:34
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It's funny that everybody makes it sound like NVidia invented SLI when the technology was originally available with Voodoo 2 graphics cards, and works internally on Voodoo 5's. |
To be fair to nVidia, their SLI implementation is about as far removed from the 3Dfx technique as it is possible to get while keeping the same goal in mind._________________ Who do you serve, and who do you trust? - Galen |
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Re: Nivida CG Support? Posted on 18-Jan-2005 20:28:12
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That's a good question, but the answer is "no"... |
It just means that "when it's done" will take more time than I first hoped, and I'm pretty sure that demomakers would have loved to play with an assembly-like language .
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