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[Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 19:07:33
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| Hi as i see Pagestream is the best DTP program for amiga computers. There is also this papyrus.
As papyrus is probably going to be made for os4 and pagestream5 will be made also im wondering what i should register.
My main thing is that i want to have a good program for printing CDLabels and CDFront/back.
There is also a program called turboprint but i hope i can live without one more program. I just want to use a printer, probably a USB printer on my A1 using OS4.
To make some gfx i believe i could use Pfpaint or other and than import in pagestream/papyrus and choose cdlabel. I believe there are templates for this.
But i still dont know what to choose. Pagestream from grashopper or Papyrus from Titan. And ofcourse there is alot of printers. I dont know if everyone would work. Maybe some are specially good for cd's etc.
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 19:18:09
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Pagestream is currently available and runs on an amigaone, papyrus does not.
how good papyrus will be, we will have to wait and see, I have placed my pre-order, but pagestream will do all you want to do. The current version of Papyrus still needs Turboprint, but i understand this might change when an OS4 version is released. _________________ Peter Swallow. A1XEG3-800 [IBM 750FX PowerPC], running OS4.1FE, using ac97 onboard sound.
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 19:46:35
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I voted PageStream because it does what you want & is available now. I will certainly look at Papyrus if/when it comes out. I'm a sucker for new programs. _________________ Hate tends to make you look stupid... |
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 19:47:22
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I give my voice to PageStream because I don't see Papyrus in action and don't know how works! _________________ --
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 19:57:18
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I think the ultimate office suite bundle would be (until OpenOffice gets here, which is more a traditional office suite)...
PageStream Ignition Hollywood _________________
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 20:23:25
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I voted for Pagestream since I consider that to be THE dtp application for AmigaOS. But I've already preordered Papyrus from Titan. I've got Pagestream 4.1 and that runs fine in OS4 already. Will probably upgrade to 5 when it becomes avalible.
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 20:31:46
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shows how much i knew, i belived papyrus was an word type of program with a db thing....not dtp.
ahwell i have used pagestream for years and i love it so i voted that (and it works fine on os4 atm... papyrus is a pipedream atm (for all i know atleast.. 60 pre orders and still no official comment from titan...)
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 21:17:49
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They will probably both do what you want, but Pagestream is a true DTP package, whereas Papyrus is more of a "document processor". I voted for Pagestream as it is DTP you need.
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 21:18:50
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I voted for PageStream as the layout of CD covers is a DTP type of job where PageStream has the tools you need. On the other hand, while we don't know what Papyrus for OS 4 will be like as I word processor I expect it will be better suited to writing long text heavy documents than PageStream.
Of course you can layout documents with lots of text in PageStream but it's not really designed for the actual text entry. As ever it's horses for courses!
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Robert (who's just spent most of the day in front of PageStream laying out Total Amiga issue 21).
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 25-Jun-2005 21:57:59
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pagestream prints really fast with a usb printer here using it's own drivers, you just need to create a dosdriver for the usbprinter.device and tell pagestream to use it...
So you don't need turboprint (in fact turboprit is much, much slower than pagestream, iirc it takes about 3 to 6 times longer, depending on the complexity of the page of course). _________________ OS4 Rocks X1000 beta tester, Sam440 Flex (733)
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 26-Jun-2005 0:50:29
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Thank you all. As i see it DTP is the one that would suit me. Yes its nice with papyrus that its more an office package but as you say they need 60 preorders and the a1. So as they havent started with it it could take ages before its finished.
And in the meantime maybe openoffice comes. So to be on the sure side Pagestream will suit fine. However what i have seen the gui on v4.1 looks really old. I hope v5 when it comes will look better on os4. And pagestream have been on amiga for a long time and they use it for magazine etc. Cool.
I dont know when im going to buy it. I believe wait until v5 comes out. In the meantime i could search for a nice printer for its purpose. |
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 26-Jun-2005 2:02:41
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However what i have seen the gui on v4.1 looks really old. I hope v5 when it comes will look better on os4.
Wasn't there a demo of PageStream in the UK about 2 years back (during the roadshow maybe?) that had sported a classy OS4 look. It looked quite good from a screenshot that I remember. _________________
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 26-Jun-2005 5:53:10
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AmigaMac wrote: @Kicko
I think the ultimate office suite bundle would be (until OpenOffice gets here, which is more a traditional office suite)...
PageStream Ignition Hollywood |
Problem is that Ignition isn't realeased, and noone knows if and when that will change
@Kicko
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 26-Jun-2005 8:35:24
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PfPaint doesnt work on OS4. It has too many classicsystem depending parts. Only chance is to get it work on uae for amiga... |
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 26-Jun-2005 19:26:00
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AmigaMac wrote: @Kicko
However what i have seen the gui on v4.1 looks really old. I hope v5 when it comes will look better on os4.
Wasn't there a demo of PageStream in the UK about 2 years back (during the roadshow maybe?) that had sported a classy OS4 look. It looked quite good from a screenshot that I remember. |
All you need is to run Pagestream, and it has the default Workbench look, you don't even need to set a screens.prefs entry for it like other 'old' programs. _________________ Peter Swallow. A1XEG3-800 [IBM 750FX PowerPC], running OS4.1FE, using ac97 onboard sound.
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 26-Jun-2005 20:39:22
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I vote PageStream. Got ver 5 on order.
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 26-Jun-2005 20:43:20
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Kicko wrote: Hi as i see Pagestream is the best DTP program for amiga computers. There is also this papyrus.
As papyrus is probably going to be made for os4 and pagestream5 will be made also im wondering what i should register.
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that clearly depends on what you want to do with that program. -> writing mainly letters and such stuff? go for papyrus. -> having full control about what to place on the "paper" and how to place it on the "paper" with more manual actions to do? go for pagestream. Quote:
My main thing is that i want to have a good program for printing CDLabels and CDFront/back. |
this would call pagestream. i've been doing these things with pgs for years. Quote:
There is also a program called turboprint but i hope i can live without one more program. I just want to use a printer, probably a USB printer on my A1 using OS4. |
if you want hight quality printouts (especially in color) you can't live without turboprint currently!
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 26-Jun-2005 21:55:31
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| This is not two comparable programs.
Payrus is an Office suit which includes a DTP program. Pagestream is a full fledged DTP program, among the best in the world. It's a bit unfair to compare these two IMHO.
Papyrus is a better product for the majority of non-professional DTP users out there. For example, most user have NO USE for 90% of the Pagestream functions, though very good for professionals needing them in their work. Who would like to write a simple letter in a DTP program??? Who would like to make small database of their CD collection in a DTP program?
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 27-Jun-2005 9:10:05
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| Apropos Pagestream... i'm eagerly awaiting the OS4 Version.. any news about that? The last life sign was that the work has been restarted because of the arrived A1..
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Re: [Poll] Pagestream or Papyrus ? Posted on 27-Jun-2005 9:34:42
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They're two completely different bits of software.
Pagestream is a pro/semi-pro level DTP application, NOT A WORD PROCESSOR, whereas Papyrus is a small/home-office application, with a few page-layout capabilities. They're almost incomparable and would probably compliment each other in the right environment.
Pagestream looks more like what you're after though. _________________
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