@NutsAboutAmiga

I already edited out stuff I do not need in kick-layout, like the various IDE card etc..

And both delays are already set to 1 sec.

I do not understand how some people claim to have 16 secs cold boots and 4 secs warm boots.... When do they start counting ?? Do they not have any backdrops, or empty WBStartups ?

My boot take 22-24 secs, and a warm one takes 10 ! secs....

Sigh.....

Martin

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@Mangaclub

Any attempt for me to add "run" causes my system to flake, it boots but into the old basic setup, it has given me 2 different messages over the period

"Please insert volume run:> NIL"

and

the other one the other day mentioned something about old 68k command no longer supported.

Huh?

cheers
ace

@acefnq

Quote:

"Please insert volume run:> NIL"

Check what you have typed... "RUN > NIL:" would work better...

Jerry

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@acefnq

Do you have space between ">" and "NIL:"???
There not should be.

I have been no probs with it?

like example
run >NIL: mw GFX:picture.jpg window

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@Metalheart

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When I do this U-boot menu pops up and I have to choose 'boot this config' to boot

Same here... So I changed both of them to 1 Sec and it worked better !

Also, after I added all the "RUN > NIL:", I had the KS loading fine... But then when the screen went black for a few seconds before coming back up with the workbench loaded, it just didn't come back...
I think the one causing problem was:
Quote:

run >NIL: C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.(info|off))

I will test it tonight.

Jerry

Last edited by Jerryuk007 on 13-Feb-2006 at 11:04 AM.

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@Metalheart

I get the same results no matter what I do! I don't get that either :-S ...

@Thread

I don't have a SIL Card. So can I comment out every "sii*" entries ?

Jerry

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@Jerryuk007

This "run >NIL: C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.(info|off))"
should be
run >NIL: C:Mount DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.(info|off))

run C:mount as background task..

EDIT: typo

Last edited by Jape on 13-Feb-2006 at 11:05 AM.

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@Mangaclub

Another one is seeing your system through the S-S and U-S as fast as possible.

To achieve this I've given ALL volumes their own S:VolumeName-Startup. And then execute them by invoking this line:

Run >NIL: Execute VolumeName:S/VolumeName-Startup

Allright, I did it *MY* way and put a test around every and any Assign and Execute command, like this:

If Exists "Applications:S"
C:Assign S: "Applications:S" ADD

If Exists S:Application-Startup
C:Run >NIL: C:Execute "S:Application-Startup"
EndIf
EndIf

And don't forget to prefix ALL commands with c:! This will make the computer look for those commands in C: only and not searching for it along the path. It's only micro seconds, but it counts anyway.

Ah, and these lines will do NOTHING to speed up the booting, but nevertheless:
If EXISTS "Work:StartupDate"
C:Date >>"Work:StartupDate"
Else
C:Date >"Work:StartupDate"
EndIf

Very informative after time. I found out that at Wednesday 29-12-2004 16:14 the file was first created and the first entry was placed into that file! And, reading from the 771st line, that the last boot was on Monday 13-02-2006 11:53. Hey, that was not so long ago, was it?

I hope that I have made some contribution in outperforming any other OS when it comes to boot times!

OldFart

EDIT: typo and a modified line

Last edited by OldFart on 13-Feb-2006 at 11:31 AM.

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@Metalheart

Quote:

I do not understand how some people claim to have 16 secs cold boots and 4 secs warm boots.... When do they start counting ?? Do they not have any backdrops, or empty WBStartups ?

I'm a bit amazed by the blazing fast warm reboot times, too... the stopwatch says that my A1 can't do it faster than 8 seconds (and, yes, I have removed the unneeded modules & stuff ever since).
As for the cold boot, I have a trouble with my DVD drive that takes some 7 seconds to say "Yep, I'm here"... yet, still the machine can boot in just slightly more than 20 seconds (haven't stopwatched this)...

saimo

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@saimo

Quote:

I'm a bit amazed by the blazing fast warm reboot times, too...

You're not the only one. From the very moment I press the reset-key-combo, it takes about 10 or 11 seconds before AmiDock appears and the background is loaded. That very moment I consider as my computer being booted.

OldFart

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@Metalheart

Quote:

This doesnt do squad for me, My warm boot was about 9 secs, and it still is after this.... Any ideas ?

disable wbatsrtup

well, just try. rename it to "WBStartup2" and reboot. is the speed now ok?
then you have to live with it or remove some programs from wbstartup. usually all the programs at startup time - especially amidock - are big time eaters.

byebye...

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@Mangaclub

Quote:

Mangaclub wrote: Follow up some nice hints how you can improve your bootup time: [...] change following lines to this: run >NIL: C:Mount DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.(info|off)) run >NIL: C:AddNetInterface >NIL: DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.(info|off)) run >NIL: C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET run >NIL: C:IPrefs

i would NOT suggest to change these lines - except the addnetinterface thing.

it may be that in wbstartup or smth else you run a program which insists on stuff started from these lines. and it may be the case that they are not yet initialized properly - as you noticed with iprefs.
iprefs is responsible for the workbench stuff (e.g. background pictures and so.) and they rely on datatypes... so they should not be started in the background imho.

byebye...

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@thread

Somebody should make this into an article for Total Amiga... Someone who explain it as simple as possible.

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@saimo

Quote:

As for the cold boot, I have a trouble with my DVD drive that takes some 7 seconds to say "Yep, I'm here"... yet, still the machine can boot in just slightly more than 20 seconds (haven't stopwatched this)... saimo

A possible way around this is to put the DVD drive on the secondary IDE, and then set it in Uboot prefs to only scan primary, or whatever they call the first IDE, it dosn't check the drive but both Linux and OS pick it up later, was much faster when I had a DVD that takes age to detect.

It also took an age on my Wintel PC when I moved it over.

Last edited by Stephen_Robinson on 13-Feb-2006 at 02:19 PM.

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@Stephen_Robinson

Quote:

A possible way around this is to put the DVD drive on the secondary IDE, and then set it in Uboot prefs to only scan primary, or whatever they call the first IDE, it dosn't check the drive but both Linux and OS pick it up later, was much faster when I had a DVD that takes age to detect.

Because of cables length and where drive bays are located in my case, I had quite a few troubles finding a good solution... especially because my DVD turned out not to support UDMA, but only MDMA (not supported by AOS drivers)! I tried many many many combinations, yet the DVD initialization always stayed the same (except that maybe it was a bit faster with the first version(s) of U-Boot). Eventually, I attached the HD and CD writer to the Silicon card, and the DVD directly to the motherboard.
However, despite all the thousand tests I did, the idea of trying the trick you're suggesting here never struck me - I will try it later when back home, then I'll let you know.
Thanks a lot, mate!

saimo

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@OldFart

Quote:

If EXISTS "Work:StartupDate" C:Date >>"Work:StartupDate" Else C:Date >"Work:StartupDate" EndIf

Huh? Why not only:
C:Date >>"Work:StartupDate"

It's the same.

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@elwood

Quote:

Huh? Why not only: C:Date >>"Work:StartupDate" It's the same.

No, it is not the same. As you see I first check whether the file is alreay there. If so, then output from C:Date is added at the end of the file.
However, if the file is not there, it is created with output from C:Date. Slight difference that comes in handy. You may call it nifty.

So, if i ever delete, rename or otherwise thrash the file, it will always be created again. On the old A1200 I've got a file per year or so, totalling to some tenthousand-odd lines.

OldFart

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@OldFart

C:Date >>"Work:StartupDate"

already creates the file if it doesn't exist (try it), so your if/else is unnecessary...

Last edited by salass00 on 13-Feb-2006 at 05:19 PM.

@Stephen_Robinson

Quote:

A possible way around this is to put the DVD drive on the secondary IDE, and then set it in Uboot prefs to only scan primary, or whatever they call the first IDE, it dosn't check the drive

As promised I've now tried the trick...
... and, no, it does not work
The DVD check is performed even if sii0680ide_maxbus is set to 1, with the following results (obviously results are not 100% accurate as the stopwatch is human-operated... though it's funny how some numbers coincide ):

cold boot

9.6 -> 16.3 (6.7) -> 30.8 (14.5) seconds

machine hardware reboot

9.6 -> 16.3 (6.7) -> 30.6 (14.3) seconds

machine soft reboot

7.7 -> 14.3 (6.6) -> 29.1 (14.8) seconds

(while I'm at it) AOS soft reboot: 8.2 seconds

key: time_to_DVD_check_start -> time_to_DVD_check_end (DVD_check_time) -> time_to_complete_boot (time_after_DVD_check)

BTW: in my previous post I mixed things up a bit: the actual setup is:
- CD burner primary master on a1ide
- HD primary master on sii0680ide
- DVD reader secondary master on sii0680ide

saimo

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