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gregthecanuck 
OS 4 progress update?
Posted on 7-Jun-2006 10:01:47
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It has been almost 4 months since update 4 was released back in February.

Can anyone from Hyperion give us an update on what progress has been made since then?

No need for large details, just some short notes would be nice.

I am thinking along the lines of things like:
- new memory system in place and stable
- large file support implemented system-wide
- more traps for badly behaved code
- progress on 3D support
- etc...

If this isn't possible, no problem. Have a great day!

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poweramiga2002 
Re: OS 4 progress update?
Posted on 7-Jun-2006 10:09:57
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when its done :)

ok serious now be nice to have news on whats progressed and how far

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Re: OS 4 progress update?
Posted on 7-Jun-2006 10:56:23
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new memory system in place and stable


Yes, the new memory system is working nicely, matter of fact is that all newer kernels have been build with it and the old one is deprecated. Speed tests indicate that the new system is considerably faster as well. It's not quite finalized, the bitmap-based page allocator is currently being replaced by a buddy system, which should give an additional boost in performance.

Thomas has written a profiler for the kernel to identify some hotspots, it gave a few clues as to where we can do futher optimizations.

Quote:
large file support implemented system-wide


Most components use large file support where appropriate.

Quote:
more traps for badly behaved code


The new memory system revealed a few more ill-behaving programs, but in general I was surprised to see that it didn't have as much negative impact as I originally thought it would have.

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progress on 3D support


Not much to report in that respect I'm afraid. Other things have taken precedence recently.

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Re: OS 4 progress update?
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Yes, the new memory system is working nicely, matter of fact is that all newer kernels have been build with it and the old one is deprecated. Speed tests indicate that the new system is considerably faster as well. It's not quite finalized, the bitmap-based page allocator is currently being replaced by a buddy system, which should give an additional boost in performance.

Thomas has written a profiler for the kernel to identify some hotspots, it gave a few clues as to where we can do futher optimizations.


So how far off in the future is the memory swap system?

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gregthecanuck 
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@Rogue

Thanks very much for the update. Great news on the new memory system.

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@RWO

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So how far off in the future is the memory swap system?


That will come as soon as th memory system is finished...

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saimo 
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@Rogue

Thanks very much for the update. Great news on the new memory system.

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Re: OS 4 progress update?
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sounds all goof. mnd when will there be a release of new firmware to enabel scsi
card use by the rest of us?


painter

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Wizzard_o 
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Thanks for the update!

Wizz.

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jahc 
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@Rogue

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Yes, the new memory system is working nicely, matter of fact is that all newer kernels have been build with it and the old one is deprecated. Speed tests indicate that the new system is considerably faster as well. It's not quite finalized, the bitmap-based page allocator is currently being replaced by a buddy system, which should give an additional boost in performance.

Are we due for an Update5 soon? Or do you want to finish overlay and OpenGL first?


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Rogue 
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@painter

I need to find a way to reproduce this problem, apparently it doesn't happen on all cards. I'll try to invest a day of work into that this week, if I can manage.

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@jahc

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Are we due for an Update5 soon? Or do you want to finish overlay and OpenGL first?


No Update #5 is planned right now, but given that we almost regularily released updates every six or so months, it might come. I still hope that a final release comes earlier, though.

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Posted on 7-Jun-2006 12:52:07
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@Rogue

Is there any information I ca give you about my card and system that will help you
resolve the scsi problem? i can't get serila debug output with only one amchine.

painter

G4 XE 512mb ran radeon 9250 2 40gig hds sblive tekram dc390u2b

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OldFart 
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No Update #5 is planned right now, but given that we almost regularily released updates every six or so months, it might come. I still hope that a final release comes earlier, though.


Our world won't stop spinning after the final version I hope? What is actually the key diffence between an update and the final version? No more updates after a final?

Btw, pleased to see the new memory system takes up shape so well!

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Rogue 
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Posted on 7-Jun-2006 12:59:55
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@painter

I'll need to first of all find out where it is crashing. I have a SCSI card here somewhere (I think; there's an awful lot of hardware lying around here) and with a bit of luck I am also "affected".

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Posted on 7-Jun-2006 13:02:22
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@OldFart

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Our world won't stop spinning after the final version I hope? What is actually the key diffence between an update and the final version? No more updates after a final?


I suppose there will be updates after the final, but I can't really tell you... Might be regulated contractually, I don't know.

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mskov 
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Posted on 7-Jun-2006 13:12:03
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@Rogue

Quote:

No Update #5 is planned right now, but given that we almost regularily released updates every six or so months, it might come. I still hope that a final release comes earlier, though.


Oh, nice... How to ask in a new way... Care to put a percentage on this?

"I'm 30% hopeful"

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Rob 
Re: OS 4 progress update?
Posted on 7-Jun-2006 13:17:19
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@Rogue

Have Hyperion been able to carry on doing any game porting work alongside the developement of OS4. How soon after OS4 final can we expect more software to buy from Hyperion. How many people work for Hyperion at the moment I know they had a few Linux developers working on Gorky 17 a while back.

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AmiGame 
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Posted on 7-Jun-2006 13:36:32
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@Rogue

Thanks for the little update. This is great news !
I'm looking forward to the next update(s)...
As long as we don't have AOS4 Final, we can be assured that work continues and that something more will come...

Jerry

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Rogue 
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@mskov

Well I certainly hope it will be more than 30%. Naturally, no OS is ever finished.

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