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RacerX 
Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 3-Apr-2007 22:38:39
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@thomas

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@RacerX

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Is there a way to reduce the delay itself? It's about 6-9 seconds on my system.


Use static IP addresses (no DHCP). I have no delay at all.

Bye,
Thomas

How would I set that up? I'm using a cable modem with a router between it and my A1.

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 4-Apr-2007 8:53:43
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@RacerX

In my case it didn't made any difference if I use DHCP or a static IP address.
The delay didn't change.
I prefer a static IP address above a DHCP address.

But if you want to use a static address, go to:
SYS:Prefs/Internet and edit the connection.





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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
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@Mopemen

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In my case it didn't made any difference if I use DHCP or a static IP address.
The delay didn't change.
I prefer a static IP address above a DHCP address.

But if you want to use a static address, go to:
SYS:Prefs/Internet and edit the connection.

So how do I determine what address to enter under static IP?

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 5-Apr-2007 7:08:49
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@RacerX

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So how do I determine what address to enter under static IP?

Here I've checked the settings menu of my DSL router (Which unfortunately
doesnt work with an Amiga web browser), and told it to handle addresses
from 192.168.178.1 to .20 as fixed, not to be used with DHCP. Then I configured
each machine on the local network to a different, unique, fixed IP address
between 192.168.178.2 and .20 (.1 was the router itself), to use the router
as default gateway and as DNS server, and everything worked as expected,
especially OS3/OS4 network startup was faster without DHCP, tested it with
both RoadShow and MiamiDx.

Especially Samba and Envoy like fixed IP addresses a lot

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 5-Apr-2007 8:40:55
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@RacerX

If you're not sure which IP address to use, enter "shownetstatus" in a shell.
It is safely to use the already provided IP address as a static address.

But if you know how big your DHCP pool is, you can use an address outside of it.
As long as it is in the same network.

Don't forget to set the default gateway and add the DNS server.
These addresses are probably the same.

Good luck!


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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 5-Apr-2007 21:15:04
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@TetiSoft

I was using a DHCP setup, so after reading about how to set a fixed IP, I decided to try changing to a fixed setting. That annoying connection delay is now gone. The delay was long enough to give me connection errors with my net apps right after bootup, now gone

Thanks for the thread, after 2 years, I'm still learning new tricks.

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 7-Apr-2007 0:57:30
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@Mopemen

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Mopemen wrote:
@RacerX

If you're not sure which IP address to use, enter "shownetstatus" in a shell.
It is safely to use the already provided IP address as a static address.

But if you know how big your DHCP pool is, you can use an address outside of it.
As long as it is in the same network.

Don't forget to set the default gateway and add the DNS server.
These addresses are probably the same.

Good luck!

I tried it by myself but I must have done something wrong. It wouldn't connect to any Internet sites until I changed it back to DHCP.

When I type 'shownetstatus' I get this:

5.Workbench:> shownetstatus

Network status summary
Local host address = 192.168.1.100 (on interface 'ETH3COM')
Default gateway address = 192.168.1.1
Domain name system servers = 74.128.1.31, 74.128.1.33, 74.128.1.31, 74.128.1.33

5.Workbench:>

When I tried changing it I got this in the Shell window after I saved it but the internet didn't work:

Waiting for network to shut down... shutdown finished.
Interface "ETH3COM" added.
Interface "ETH3COM" configured, address = 192.168.1.1, network mask = 192.168.1.100.


Obviously I'm doing something wrong but I don't know what.

OK, on the main screen of Prefs/InternetPreferences the interface (ETH3COM) is highlighted. I click on 'Modify', right?

On the next screen I suppose I should check 'Use static IP address' and UNcheck 'Try dynamic configuration', right? Which numbers should I put in the boxes for IP address and Subnet mask? Anything else I should change?

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 7-Apr-2007 1:04:21
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@sundown

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... The delay was long enough to give me connection errors with my net apps right after bootup,)...

That's why I don't like using the 'run >NIL:' thing on the net connection. The first thing I do on my A1 is check my E-mail the browse then Internet.

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 7-Apr-2007 5:16:45
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@RacerX

Your router IP is the same as mine. After setting up a fixed IP there is no more delay & I kept the run >NIL: in my line as well.

Here's my net status read out (shownetstatus).

Network status summary
Local host address = 192.168.1.100 (on interface 'Amiga')
Default gateway address = 192.168.1.1
Domain name system servers = 192.168.1.1

The first line is the IP of my micro, the 2nd/3rd is the IP of my router.

In Prefs/Internet:

Interfaces:
Name = Amiga (can be any name)
Device driver = DEVS:Networks/eth3com.device
Device type = Ethernet
Unit/Port = 0

Use static IP address 'on'
Try DHCP 'off'
IP address = 192.168.1.100
Subnet mask = 255.255.255.0

IP packet type = default 'on'


Routes: at the bottom,
Default Gateway Address = 192.168.1.1 (IP of router)
Under 'New', set 'Type' to 'Auto' & then 'Use'


Hosts: default settings


Name Resolution:
Server IP address = 192.168.1.1 (IP of router)


Services: default settings


Servers: default settings

Last edited by sundown on 13-Sep-2008 at 04:28 AM.
Last edited by sundown on 11-Apr-2007 at 06:36 PM.

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 7-Apr-2007 10:27:58
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@RacerX

Did you notice the following line of your AddNetInterface output:

Quote:

Interface "ETH3COM" configured, address = 192.168.1.1, network mask = 192.168.1.100.


network mask should be 255.255.255.0

Maybe that solves your problem

Greetz

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 10-Apr-2007 2:18:15
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@sundown

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Routes: at the bottom,
Default Gateway Address = 192.168.1.1 (IP of router)

A couple more questions;

Under 'Routes' what should I put for target address? Apparently I have to enter something.

Should 'Type' be set to auto?

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 10-Apr-2007 3:22:00
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@RacerX

Here 'Type' is set to auto, nothing else is entered in that window. I only entered the gateway address in the main window.

On the Final CD, there is a 'Documentation' directory. I copied it over to my HD, but read/print the Roadshow docs. It goes through the settings & they're a little different then what I have. The config settings are saved in SYS:Devs/Internet as text files, so check those as well to make sure the enteries match what you have entered.

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 11-Apr-2007 3:25:30
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@sundown

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@RacerX

Here 'Type' is set to auto, nothing else is entered in that window. I only entered the gateway address in the main window.

That seems to have made the difference. It works now. I just did a warm/soft reset (logo-logo-Ctrl) and the delay was about half of what it was.

Thanks!

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 11-Apr-2007 9:32:44
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@All

Thanks for this usefull infomation,I have been able to remove the run >NIL: and get on the net staight with little delay at boot.
Thanks again.
Arnie

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 11-Apr-2007 18:27:21
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@Arnie

I removed the run >NIL: as well just to see if it affected my warm bootup time.

Boot time with run >nil: removed = 14 sec.
With run >nil: in the line = 9 sec.

There's that 5 secs again.
In both cases I have no delay in net connection.

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Re: 5 sec. boot delay with network enabled
Posted on 11-Apr-2007 18:43:11
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@RacerX

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That seems to have made the difference. It works now.

Thanks, I've added that info to my setup post for others. Glad you got it working.

I'll add a disclaimer here, I'm no expert on setting up Roadshow, I just posted what worked for me. After 2 years, I'm still learning.

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