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K-L wrote: @fairlanefastback Joerg is working activey on OWB, Marçik on Sputnik. And you want FireFox or other browser to be ported to our systems. I prefer supporting our developpers (even Ibrowse is still being developped as far as I understand). Let's not waste our time trying to get things we have already and which need only improvements. Or DO it

Most certainly I want to support the current developers. I've given to the bounty for Sputnik on OS4 (without owning OS4) and bought MOS 2.0 which includes Sputnik for MOS. So I have been supporting the developers. It would be nice to have a second browser though. And perhaps us having an open source one could help, especially with some feature sets that are currently missing, like this from the Sputnik page:

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Q: Will be the Shockwave Flash supported? A: It will if someone creates a plug-in (plug-in API is a part of KTHML, but it has low priotity on my todo list).

I'm not at all opposed to Sputnik and Origyn being the two choices on each Amiga-like OS. I know at least Sputnik has plans to go to AOS 4.0, not sure if Origyn is ever destined to MOS though.

Certainly I'm not for mucking up anything here. Not being a programmer perhaps I am over-weighing how open source could possibly help. Conversely though I think having a browser like Firefox could win us new users. Asus being able to say that Eee PC runs Firefox certainly gives an air of familiarity to potential customers.

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@fairlanefastback

About Sputnik: I don't even think Sputnik will evar land on AmigaOS 4 since Marçik doesn't really want to make it.

As said befor, I prefer that Marçik works full time on Sputnik for MorphOS 2 than trying to get it working on Amiga OS 4 (and slowing donw the MOS version).

For OWB, anyone is free to port it to MorphOS 2

But seriously, let's not reinvent the wheel constantly, there are so many other things to do instead of making things that have already be done.

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@tomazkid

Sputnik for OS4 is in the works [EDIT] (it is currently in development, but no release date yet).

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About Sputnik: I don't even think Sputnik will evar land on AmigaOS 4 since Marçik doesn't really want to make it.

He has é3000 reason to do it

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Troels wrote: @tomazkid Sputnik for OS4 is in the works [EDIT] (it is currently in development, but no release date yet).

Good
OWB is a good effort, but somehow Sputnik feels like a more OS-native of those two.

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I think its enough with sputnik and owb for browsers. better do other stuff like plugins, other software we need etc. We should be happy there is these 2 browsers. You greedy..... ;)

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@Kicko

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Kicko wrote: I think its enough with sputnik and owb for browsers. better do other stuff like plugins, other software we need etc. We should be happy there is these 2 browsers. You greedy..... ;)

Well there is no OWB for MOS. So really I have one browser.

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@fairlanefastback

IBrowse does not work on MOS 2?

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@tomazkid

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tomazkid wrote: @fairlanefastback IBrowse does not work on MOS 2?

I'm referring to modern browsers. To by understanding and previous usage of Ibrowse (not on MOS) it has many webpage rendering issues. Perhaps my understanding of it to be a legacy web browser is off, but thats how it has felt when I have used it in the past.

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Isnt Sputnik good ? Or shall i say better then all browsers on amiga together ?

There is always linux you can install and run firefox. :)

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@Kicko

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Kicko wrote: Isnt Sputnik good ? Or shall i say better then all browsers on amiga together ? There is always linux you can install and run firefox. :)

Yes its good. But what happens if Marcik decides to quite developing it at some point. Whats wrong with wanting a second modern web browser on an OS?

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@fairlanefastback

Whats wrong is these things do take alot of time and you know how many developers we have left and how many wants to use their sparetime for stuff like this. History tells itself. See how long it takes for ibrowse to release new versions. Aweb is not much happening there either.

Enjoy what you have now :D

If Marcik decides to stop development maybe he releases it opensource and someother people continues. If not maybe Joerg decides to make a port to MOS if we/you raise some money like Sputnik. But who knows what the future gives us. Maybe AmigaInc pays developers to make firefox (and im king of Sweden) :D

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http://www.netsurf-browser.org/NetSurf is a web browser for RISC OS and UNIX-like platforms including Linux and an early port for BeOS has been completed.

Had a look at this program and it sounds very interesting. I've made a quick port using my (buggy) DirectFB/Cygnix port. NetSurf is really very portable and it compiled without any change (Congratulation to the NetSurf team!).

Here is a screenshot:









It works nice, but there are not much advantages compared to owb. And the biggest disadvantage: It has no javascript

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Wow

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That's really impressive.

How is the memory footprint over OWB?

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It can handle css and such though?

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WOW, looking forward for the release

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How is the memory footprint over OWB?

It runs (on RISC OS at least) in 16MB. OWB needs 256MB (and ideally 512MB).

It should also be faster and has some menu items for bookmarks and the like.

It's a nice little browser from what I've seen of it (running slowly under emulation and with no network connection)

Hopefully the GTK code can be easily replaced with AmigaOS code, to make the GUI properly native.

No JavaScript could be a major issue for some sites though.

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@Chris_Y

There's plenty of open-source JavaScript implementations that can be added to the browser. It's open source, after all!