@Rogue

Hmm, does this mean if my µA1 dies on me, I can't use the license I've bought for it on a SAM?

Warranty says, "this license allows you to install AmigaOS on a single Amiga-branded or Amiga-licensed computer at a time does not allow AmigaOS on more that one computer at a time" etc etc

IS the SAM an Amiga-Licensed computer?

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Hmm, does this mean if my µA1 dies on me, I can't use the license I've bought for it on a SAM? Warranty says, "this license allows you to install AmigaOS on a single Amiga-branded or Amiga-licensed computer at a time does not allow AmigaOS on more that one computer at a time" etc etc IS the SAM an Amiga-Licensed computer?

This is the wrong question. The question should rather be, can you install the AmigaOne version on a SAM? The answer is no you can't. So you would need a different version. Would ACube provide a different version for you as a "replacement" for the µA1 version? I can't answer that, really.

Really, any question of that nature is better not directed at me. I can't answer the question, and I won't take the beating for it.

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@Rogue

Fair enough I suppose, also how would ACube know that the µA1 had really died anyway?

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@Stephen_Robinson

Personally, I wouldn't mind if someone runs AmigaOS 4.1 on two machines even though he only bought it once, but in general, it is up to ACube and/or Hyperion to decide.

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@Yo

well what you said is a joke microsoft make os,s they dont make pc,s but theres runs on lots of dif hardware.

get what i mean:)

@Rogue

Thank you for your explanation, I have could to see in Vesalia that they will sell the OS 4.1 for Sam boards, I been afraid to have other board save in a box as with my Efika, but you understand that now the goblal economy we not allow spend money without thinking it very seriously.

@Rogue

This is best, considering its the only "real" alternative there is out there to the A1.

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My info is that it is an OEM version that is to be sold with a SAM board. I *suppose* that existing customers of SAM boards will be able to buy a copy of AmigaOS 4.1 for the SAM.

Sounds like a case of "buyer beware". Owners of a SAM board *may* be able to buy OS4.1 for it, but ACube has not announced that yet. Personally I'd wait for a SAM+OS4 bundle (which should be cheaper anyway), or even a pre-build system.

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@Rogue

Thank you for answer(s).

Yes, I do understand that you are software developer. But I also see that you cooperate really closely with ACube (which is good :D), and I don't see any reason to produce more AmigaOS4.1 (Sam version)... than the Sam440 motherboards...

I'm talking about AmigaOS4.1 which I could "pre-order" today from Amigakit.com, and somehow support the "you" and I could wait and that later purchase Sam440ep.

Other thing about this "porting" for Mac's, PC's etc.

I really can't understand whole this rumor... Soon I'm going to spend $900 for Sam440 and OS4.1. I don't care how much. I waited for this opportunity 5 years. I like the hardware (for me much better than BlizzardPPC230Mhz...and relatively cheaper that ANY Amiga hardware today - I don't care about comparison to PC world of hardware). I can only be happy about that :). - comparison within Amiga hardware world.

BUT. I someone will tell me next month that I can run AmigaOS4.1 on my Core2Duo PC... yes, I will be $%$@#$@#%#^#%&$&* ;). How in this "option" justify the purchase of Sam440 (any kind?)...becouse in this case I will compare Sam440 to my PC... if there would be a AmigaSam440... maybe. But even today some people "scream" Sam440 is NOT Amiga... (personally I don't care...). - comparison outside the Amiga hardware world.

In general... we need some official statement about whole situation Amiga INC vs. Hyperion and ACube.

Releasing an AmigaOS4.1 for Sam440 is creating only questions.

I think I will wait... like always... :(

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Hmm, OK, seems that I am not keeping up with the news, because ACube have OS4 for SAM listed on their web site:
http://www.acube-systems.biz/eng/software.php

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BUT. I someone will tell me next month that I can run AmigaOS4.1 on my Core2Duo PC.

That won't happen, SAM440ep is the only option.

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"scream" Sam440 is NOT Amiga... (personally I don't care...)."

Thats because some people have where narrow view of what Amiga is, for some it the Amiga500 7 mhz whit 0.5 mb chip ram.

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we need some official statement about whole situation Amiga INC vs. Hyperion and ACube.

Thats not some thing the end users should care about it up to the judge to decide who is wrong and who is right, not me and you.

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I think I will wait... like always... :(

If I was you most likely wait until first batch of Sam440ep are delivered whit AmigaOS4.1, then read the reports and then decide.

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There never was an "official" MacMini project. It is very unlikely there ever will be one.

This is really sad as the work was almost done...

Now THE amiga like OS for apple mac mini will be MorphOS only...

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That won't happen, SAM440ep is the only option.

I'm not so sure about that :(. I don't want AmigaOS become "linux - kind of system" but with the difference that I need to pay for it and than it will run on any crap with LCD ;) (in sense of distribution...)

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If I was you most likely wait until first batch of Sam440ep are delivered whit AmigaOS4.1, then read the reports and then decide.

I decided that I will wait until Sam440 and OS4.1 (OEM) will be released.

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Now THE amiga like OS for apple mac mini will be MorphOS only...

It's not like Apple owners have been waiting for a new OS on their box, be it MorphOS or AmigaOS 4.x or AROS. They usually don't care if there isn't a small half-eaten apple on it.

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@Rogue

i am not 100% with you there.... on many mac minis osx crawls.
i am sure there's a bunch of mac mini owners that would welcome a light os to run on their old mini, to get it usable again, also many mac guys are ex. amiga guys and some of them surely would be curious and buy aos4.

and then there's the amiga nuts that would raid ebay for mac minis, thinking it would be the perfect and cheap hw to run os4 on.

conclusion: i think a mac mini version of os4 would do very well.

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@ Rogue i am not 100% with you there.... on many mac minis osx crawls. i am sure there's a bunch of mac mini owners that would welcome a light os to run on their old mini, to get it usable again, also many mac guys are ex. amiga guys and some of them surely would be curious and buy aos4. and then there's the amiga nuts that would raid ebay for mac minis, thinking it would be the perfect and cheap hw to run os4 on. conclusion: i think a mac mini version of os4 would do very well.

Yes, I fully agree.

I was thinking of a very good machine for the amigans...

As it is now, many will go to MorphOS...

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@Rogue

Does Hyperion plan to release OS 4.1 for the Cyberstorm/Blizzard PPC?


Cheers,
Chris

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I'm not so sure about that :(. I don't want AmigaOS become "linux - kind of system" but with the difference that I need to pay for it and than it will run on any crap with LCD ;) (in sense of distribution...)

It's not going to be in form of lots of distribution(s) because AmigaOS is not free, so it's only going to one official version.

Linux is:

Linux kernel + Drivers.
sh/bash
GNU Utilities
X-Windows.
KDE/Gnome

AmigaOS4 is:

Exec + Drivers
AmigaDOS
Workbench.

In last years hyperion adapted new standards, and improved stability, but fundamentals are the same, directory structure and basic building blocks, the biggest difference is that it now uses a PowerPC cpu, and that old outdated chipsets are no longer needed.

SDL games: looks like AmigaOS games and you will not notice any difference, SDL is not a Linux thing, its multiplatform graphic system, it has become a standard, you will find SDL on Windows, MacOS, Unix, BSD and Linux.
SH / ABCSHELL: is available for developers in the SDK but not needed by users.
SO libraries / objects: where adapted because, because of the open source applications.

GTK/QT is not ported yet so this means that AmigaOS ports of Linux programs will always have a AmigaOS look and GUI system.

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@Rogue
Other important question for you, Hyperion, ACube and all Amiga's Gurus, Why there are so rumors? now with the OS 4.1 run about PC, MAC, Playstation 3, etc, all these false rumors are to do very damage to the Amiga community, because in our case after of so years with this situation, now again the same situation do much damage for your and future proyects, will have any way to finish this rumors, becaus it do that we have much doubts and questions as this and my previous questions.
Again thank Rogue for your time.