@eliyahu

There's more to it than that.

This poll is flawed partially because it does not explain dependencies.

Example: I want a browser.

Fine, but that means you want to play utube files as part OF the experience.

So now you have to discuss Mplayer/ffmpeg or something internal and what it needs to do to meet that criteria of default .mp4 360p containing h264 codec for the most part. Think "performance".

Then you have other things mentioned that require not only the new filesytem, but a rewrite of programs themselves (the apps) to make use of said filesytem.

In short this poll is not going to make a whole lot of sense as currently constructed. Sorry.

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@vox

“Better Internet support - onboard ethernet driver”

Yes thats a funny sentence, because this two has nothing to do whit etch other.
“onboard ethernet driver” will not give you “Better Internet support”, it just a new driver nothing more.

To get better internet support you need to work on different things like DNS lookups.

For example query _spotify-client._tcp.spotify.com using POIX res_search(), dn_skipname(), dn_expand(), or some thing like win32 socket api DnsQuery_A() and DnsRecordListFree().

and get many results like:

ns4.spotify.com.
ns5.spotify.com.
ns2.spotify.com.
ns3.spotify.com.

https://www.ultratools.com/tools/dnsLookupResult

ipv6 protocol, is another examples, internet providers are running out IPv4 addresses, my ISP is offering me to migrate to IPv6 right now, whit out IPv4 I can't get on to the internet.

Anyway I might be possible to tunnel this to a Linux box, as work around but its silly.

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Joke you a joke, under Linux onboard ethernet is in my experience
way more reliable. RTL card is laughable. I also have Wi-Fi card Prism2
its good. And it saves PCI slot and router place, now I have to have
both connected (Linux installs NEED onboard one)

That and final TW and that is net on X1000 to me.

And to you?

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@-Sam-

Yes, its for good of ALL OS4 users.

I am amazed they have got this far,
but I am far more amazed they haven`t finished it being so close.

Thread copied to A.org with multiple choices ON
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=66242

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@eliyahu

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if we fork over e5000 to fab, he'll open the source to his current version of OWB for MOS. so either we pay up, wait for TW development to restart, or live with what we have.

not to blast this thread, but i think it should become another common community effort, not only os4 but aros and genuine amigans might chip in, if not for real hardware then for the sake of uae. of course it remains to be seen, we need to wait up the feedback, but i guess including all camps we could have the money ready much quicker. btw another great initaiative of kas1e, i cant do nothing, but applaud.

@vox

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but I am far more amazed they haven`t finished it being so close.

Yes - it would be a fantastic thing if it could be finished. Let's hope that one day it is as it would be of huge benefit to OS4.

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@wawa

+1

I agree, Browser is important for all camps and it is easier to collect such a sum. It should be really open and a project for the whole community like Magellan already is.

@vox

Need the onboard one? Normally you can configure the kernel and compile missing kernel mods (drivers). You can start the kernel mods (drivers) by using modprobe or insmod in linux, anyway it was long time ago I used it at home, I want to setup a computer, but to don't want corrupted boot loaders, I think I need a extra box some where.

Anyway I use a KWM, so I can always look at YouTube whit out a problem on my PC, it just press on KVM button to get from PC to my AmigaONE-X1000, yes its not ideal, but I know what I was getting when I bought the X1000. I did buy it for development not as a user, just like to write code on it, and like to improve stuff.

I'm not disappointed about slow development I kind of expected it.

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Yes Jah, I have forgotten to propose that X2000 systems MUST have
DVD and HDD LED

I hope we all agree on that. Software wise, both dockies must be included
in oS 4.1.7 and onward for X1000/2000 ....

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@djrikki

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"What would be urgent OS4 needs of X1000 user?" I couldn't find the option 'Weed out nuisance users'.

SInce I am the weed to be rooted out (a compliment for Rasta)
I will now stop using AW.net until 1st Jan 2014 and A.org

Circumstances has made to break my word, which I honestly
dislike. As well as any legal process. I will first do my best
to avoid it.

Mike Dread is nice teacher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGgGMMY8nJM

Another off topic worth of reporting.
A bit of Ras Buju, a bit harsh rudie in many ways, but Rasta
convert I hope his soul can be rescued, because of talent.

Have other things to do in life until next year.

Enjoy the club, shoot next messenjah

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@vox

Jan 2004?!

If someone called you a weed to be rooted out then take it as a compliment. I highly suspect that a lot of people here like weed and probably find interesting ways to ingest it.

Jan 2014 might surprise you with some network drivers and an updated browser.

I'd actually forgotten that I was using a USB-Ethernet dongle.

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vox wrote: @NutsAboutAmiga Yes Jah, I have forgotten to propose that X2000 systems MUST have DVD and HDD LED

That would seem sensible for a system which is powered down (at least by many users) by pressing the power button.

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@Darrin

No longer interesrted in X1000 beside refund

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@vox: I don´t think that Amigakit or A-EON are legally bound to give you a refund after all the time.

And after all the insults, treats and attempted blackmails from your side I am not sure, if they will do something for you as a gesture of goodwill.

Beside this I really don´t get your point. If you are so unsatisfied with AmigaOS4.1 and its progress why in hell you want first a Cyrus+-board from A-EON (which will only be available as betatest-system in the next future) and than want a refund for buying a SAM 460-system (which runs also AmigaOS4.1)? Gallium3D will be available with AmigaOS4.2, so its the same timeframe for all AOS4-systems. Support for the Onboard-network of he X1000 is already in betatest.

So what do you expect from Cyrus+ or SAM 460? Poor ACube, if you play this game again with them. For the record: On SAM 460 you don´t have 3D for modern GPUs till AmigaOS 4.2, too. MorphOS is an early beta on this system. And Timberwolf won't be faster on this system for sure.

So why just stay with your X1000 and enjoy what you have and wait for the things to come (at least you have the fastest AOS4-system at the moment)?

Or - and this would be consequent after all your complains - just leave the platform for good, sell your X1000 and go for another OS.

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@thread

I voted for "other" and the thing I'd most like is Libre Office and associated printer support.

I like the X1000 and use it daily, OWB is pretty good, though video support isn't 100% it does well most of the time. I use Final Edition and it and Radeon drivers (2.7) are fine for my use. The X1000 is a much more capable computer than my A3000, but lags in some areas:

There really isn't an Office Suite I'm happy with (Have AmiCygnix, AbiWord, Gnumeric, etc. all good but not truly native OS4) so that's my number one need.

Printing support is frankly awful....I have the HP Photosmart driver for my printer...but this OS needs a full printing solution badly.

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Very much things in progress now (3d, office, webbrowser) but I think also we need modern printer support..

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Yes! We really need updated TurboPrint with modern drivers. Finishing TW is still up on the list.

@QuikSanz

I don't quite see how TW would revolutionize the Amiga world. Odyssey works pretty good, and looks Amiga-like, but may need a new webkit engine to stay up-to-date. Same (keeping the engine updated) would apply to TW if it were to become useful over time.

And now we have 3D and better video support :)

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@Deniil715

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I don't quite see how TW would revolutionize the Amiga world.

neither do i, but "its not a browser, its technology", remember? ;)

however since it was never ment for amiga, the above point is moot. nevertheless im pretty sure, that if it was available for os4 in an usable shape, everybody would claim how important it is. since it isnt, it is unimportant. simple.

@wawa

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nevertheless im pretty sure, that if it was available for os4 in an usable shape, everybody would claim how important it is.

I think there are benchmarks that show Chrome is faster than Firefox.
Chrome is sort of WebKit (OWB), so MUIOWB is not a bad browser.

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since it isnt, it is unimportant. simple.

Two things that do the same thing, how can one be more important than the other?

Any way the stuff FAB do is normally top quality work (not always, but who does), good readable code that works (well it works most of the time, well it might be his code I fix), he is also the type of developer who goes the extra mile.

And you know the OS4 users, envy MorphOS for having him.

Hans-Jorg and Thomas are good developers too, but I think there time is better spent on more important things, then porting yet another browser.

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