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Re: vampire/apollo core Posted on 10-Feb-2015 23:57:39
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| @vision
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@wawa Congrats for this wonderful project! I couldn´t find any info regarding memory, what's the top config? I mean: how many MB will support? 16, 32, 64 bits? which SIM / DIM format? Do you plan to support A1000? will the A500 model be compatible with it? I am VERY interested in that, and I suspect not only me would support it. |
please dont shoot a messenger!! i dont even own an a600, i gave it my girlfriend in the mid 90ies;). follow my links and give a credit where its due. id love to have a 600er again, but from what i know an expansion compatible with all non aga machines is under way and its going to be a bit better than vampire currently is. |
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Re: vampire/apollo core Posted on 11-Feb-2015 12:41:46
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It is planned to have full 68060 support including FPU but no MMU. |
Given the focus would be on speed would it not be better to create a fast 68040 compatible CPU? The 68060 instruction set doesn't perfectly match its predecessors so would need soft emulation for unsupported instructions. Usually ran from a trap vector.
Also, did any 060 Amiga cards lacka MMU? |
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Re: vampire/apollo core Posted on 11-Feb-2015 13:35:50
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| Of course there is still interest. I got both an A1200 and A4000 that could use a version with more capacity and speed. It will be a bit hit on the accelerator market though, new and second hand so count on some opposition...
It would be silly to not finish it now, just go ahead and finish the damn thing ;) _________________
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Re: vampire/apollo core Posted on 12-Feb-2015 12:25:05
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Now, that really is rather exciting. Not only because it's going to give some of the slower machines 060 levels of CPU horsepower, but also because I'd like to see a Minimig with something like this as an option.
I wonder how much headroom is left in the design for more speed improvements... Can we get to the mythical 080 on our own, I wonder? _________________ "Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard, be evil." |
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Re: vampire/apollo core Posted on 12-Feb-2015 12:33:28
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I wonder how much headroom is left in the design for more speed improvements... Can we get to the mythical 080 on our own, I wonder? |
Performance is our goal.
The Apollo is designed for performance and in some comparisons done by IBM Apollo did beat competing IBM PowerPC hands down.
In the Vampire-600 Apollo-Phoenix runs good and reaches in all typical AMIGA benchmarks 68060 level.
But of course in this small FPGA only a fraction of the possile performance is reached. The next Vampire cards will fix this and the full Apollo Core can then be used.
I expect several times 68060 performance. In some very early test we did we also saw several times 68060 performance.
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Re: vampire/apollo core Posted on 12-Feb-2015 13:10:55
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It will be a bit hit on the accelerator market though, new and second hand so count on some opposition... |
Given a new A1200 accelerator looks about the same level as my DKB Cobra and probably the same price I think it's about time we have better accelerators that can beat it! I mean. it must be almost 20 years since I bought the damn thing! And I can't get a faster one new?! |
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Re: vampire/apollo core Posted on 12-Feb-2015 13:25:57
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Given a new A1200 accelerator looks about the same level as my DKB Cobra and probably the same price I think it's about time we have better accelerators that can beat it! I mean. it must be almost 20 years since I bought the damn thing! And I can't get a faster one new?! |
current 68030 @ 25MHz score about a score of 5-6 in minibench The Phoenix/Vampire1 scores about 40-60 depending on what features we enable. For the Phoenix/Vampire2 combo we plan for a score of 150-200.
This means it should be a lot faster than all 68030. Compared to 68030 it shoukd be like 750-1000 MHz Last edited by BigGun on 12-Feb-2015 at 01:27 PM.
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Re: vampire/apollo core Posted on 12-Feb-2015 16:48:41
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That's sounding dangerously like "shut up and take my money" territory.
I really hope you can make that work. It's just what I've been looking for. _________________ "Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard, be evil." |
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