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Ok, this is the most striking post i've seen on this site so far, so I thought I would break my status as 'lurker'. :)

When I first read this I immediately dismissed it as being a lie. The way it was stated was as if the writer assumed it to be an obvious and known fact, which is simply not the case and the writer knows this. Plus, if they wanted to convince people that they weren't fibbing for fibbings sake, they ought to have elaborated a bit.

From some feedback I have seen so far on this subject (Kay mentioned them) I am not so sure, but if it were true it was clearly not meant to be disclosed, or Amiga would have done so already. If it isn't true, then bad on us. Either way, true or false, the news was a flagrant attempt to stir up FUD, because only a person with an IQ below 70 would fail to realise this is exactly what it would do. Thus, I don't trust the source, and am leaning in favour of it not being true. But hell, I wish they had just never said anything...

After a bit of research I found there were a few CEO's involved in some way in the IT\computer industry.
I doubt what was reported was true, but it could have been a mistake on the part of the story writer, a mistake by Bill Buck(he has had Amiga Inc on his mind lately).However as this is a joint statement, the chances that it is a mistake from the Genesi side seem reduced.

I dont think we need to get too worked up over this.It seems that somewhere a mistake has been made and I suggest we simply wait it out until someone can clarify the truth of this matter one way or another.

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Bill Buck has posted some sort of explanation at morphos-news.de about Gary Hare. Go here...

It makes me even more confused...

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moood wrote: Bill Buck has posted some sort of explanation at morphos-news.de about Gary Hare. Go here... It makes me even more confused...

Yep, i am puzzled as well...this is in fact serious stuff been written on AmigaInc.

This SEEMS like FUD to me.

Always when something good is announced about Aone/Aos4, BBRV come out with something to take the limelight away from or tries to discredit it or the companies behind the products.

Aos4 advert turns up on Amiga.Org then days later this CEO is leaked out from Genesi.
Its all about timing.

The link says its old news, why wait till now to say so, maybe cos the Aos4 ad had just come out and Aone-XE are starting to flow slowly, hoping to put ppl off untill Genesi get the beta peg2 board out.

Even if its all true its no business of genesi to announce Amiga.inc plans & dealings.

And so what if there is a new CEO, big deal as its old news anyway, what change have any of you noticed about Amiga.inc lately that is negative to what they have been doing before.


Thats like microsoft reporting on all of Apples dealings all the time & apple reporting on microsofts every dealings and you could bet that the reports would never be about the good things that each other is doing.

The Fact is we all know what part amiga.inc plays in the Aone/Aos4 project, but many out side the amiga circle do not.

Harm Amiga.inc's image & that could harm sales of Aone/Aos4 as the world still looks for the lead company for info, even tho we know that Aone/Aos4 will contunie with out Amiga.inc many out side do not.

If Aos4 comes out with out Amiga.inc mentioning it then most likely many of the non amiga sites will not pick up on it.

How often do you see Pegaos/Mos reported about on non amiga sits compaired to Amiga and yet Genesi already have the pegasos/MOS on sale for quite some time.

Its what Amiga.inc do when Aone/Aos4 is out that really matters & nothing else.


Edit are my posts getting any better from my very low writing standard of the norm ?.

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moood wrote: Bill Buck has posted some sort of explanation at morphos-news.de about Gary Hare. Go here... It makes me even more confused...

You and me both. How can he assume that it was public knowledge when a quick check on AmigaINCs website shows no announcement to such end?

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Even if its all true its no business of genesi to annoucen Amiga.inc plans & dealings.

I agree.

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since it got moderated to NEWS at ann, im guessing that the moderators did get some sort
of confirmation ? Why would Christian or Teemu
moderate it to news if its Buck's BS ?

but nothing can affect OS4 :)

Well, this latest update has got me somewhat flabberghasted.
I thought that when a public company (i.e. one that has shareholders) that a change in the CEO had to be announced in some fashion by law, at least to the stock exchange.

In any case, Amiga Inc. need to reply to this very soon, to either confirm or deny it.

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If the change was done some time (2 weeks) ago, why it hasn't been told before? Not very open approach towards community, again.

AmigaInc have NO shareholders !!

They are a Private Company. (Safe from M$ clutches)

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f the change was done some time (2 weeks) ago, why it hasn't been told before? Not very open approach towards community, again.

They might be waiting until next week when the latest CAM is released.

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If this is true it's really up to Amiga Inc. to announce if they have a new CEO right away. If they don?t they give their competitors the chance to spread FUD.

(I think) Amiga Inc. has not been very "open" with information about their staff ... But I also don't see so much need for that ... If Bill McEwen (President) wanted a new Chief Executive Officer, then it is great that they got a new one ... I see no need to panic ... I trust their decision ... at least it is not Bill Buck (if it was, then I wouldn't trust Amiga Inc. anymore)!

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@ elektro_O

Uh, sorry, but that looks a bit too much like iWin

> I see no need to panic ... I trust their
> decision ... at least it is not Bill Buck (if
> it was, then I wouldn't trust Amiga Inc.
> anymore)!

LOL !

I believe the intend and purpose for these rumour spreading by Mr Buck is very clear. My suggestion would be not to worry at all and wait for a reply from Amiga Inc the next couple of working days.

You are, of course, Correct Mike.

But its "oh so easy" to get "sucked in" !!

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hnl_dk wrote: (I think) Amiga Inc. has not been very "open" with information about their staff ... But I also don't see so much need for that ... If Bill McEwen (President) wanted a new Chief Executive Officer, then it is great that they got a new one ... I see no need to panic ... I trust their decision ... at least it is not Bill Buck (if it was, then I wouldn't trust Amiga Inc. anymore)!

Um, I think Bill McEwen is the CEO, actually ... A new
CEO would mean he was replaced by someone else. Or?

Given that fleecy talked about them "Absolutely" buying
back AOS4 from Hyperion in the future, it doesn't sound like
much of the internal goals of AInc has changed at least, no
matter if this statement is true or not.

I find it interesting as to what kind of cooperation Genesi
want with AmigaInc. I could understand the reasoning two
years ago when MOS could have been AOS, since it really
had no "official" competitor. But now? I doubt they would
drop MOS anytime soon. But Hyperion is now (hopefully)
towards the end of development, you can't expect them to
give anything up to MOS, not freely. The only thing I can
imagine is getting AOS4 licensed on the Pegasos (with
terms that Genesi accepts)...

Whereas I agree that some sort of cooperation between the
competitors would be beneficial in a general sence, I find it
hard to see that they could really work together practically.
Which OS to push? They cannot realistically push both, not
if they want to flow with the Amiga brandname recognition
(which is AInc:s main bargening chip, I suppose). They
would have to ditch one of the OS:es in favour of the other,
which would be a mess (OK, they could try to merge them,
but in effect that would still mean you are ditching one
solution for the other. I doubt developers/company officials
on either side would appreciate the politics, personal
preferences and bad blood that would spring to the surface
in that case...). And if they niche one of the OS:es, say
AOS4 (or whatever it's name would be) into being
specialised for, say, embedded devices and leaving only
MOS ("AOS-MOS") for the desktop - well let's say it would
not be very effective to manage (nor popular, I'd say).

... Not to mention old grievances, beefs and agendas
betwen the camps on "grassroot level". It would not be a
pretty sight. In summary, that's why I think any
cooperation between MOS and AOS would be at most
extended to minor licensing (AOS for Pegasos, perhaps
allowance for MOS to use certain AA features and for AOS
to use MOS drivers for example). A deeper collaboration
would force one to start throwing stuff away. And that
would rip this tattered hobby scene to pieces completely.
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SlimJim